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post 12 Aug 2012, 18:43
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QUOTE (RFS @ 12 Aug 2012, 16:55) *
Yes that's correct. Each motor can operate independently because the two pairs of point blades are staggered and do not overlap each other. A train can take the first RH path regardless of the setting of the following LH path. That's one of the reasons why I have defined mine as two separate points as defining it as a 3-way didn't work.


The only issue with this turnout is that it's essential to electrically bond the 3 rails on each side half way down. Peco have already cut the web for you to do this. Otherwise I've found the connections via the point blades can stop working and I've had to add extra droppers to all 3 of mine to resolve this. Next time I relay the point I'll do it properly!


Yup - I'd recommend doing this wiring mod on any peco point, this layout we acquired has something like 60 points on it, all code 75 peco (except the 3-way which is code 100 but still has same issue) and I'd say 70% of them have current pick-up issues - I guess half of them work half the time - not very good for reliability at all! They will all have to have power feeds added to the Acc switch of the PM.
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post 13 Aug 2012, 03:59
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I have done a temp diagram on RR&co. with the above image for the 3way only. I have set up with routes but notice that you have to reset back to the centre track before going to the top or bottom track as one of the ways it ends up pushes against another point blade. What do the push buttons do and what did you do to set them up. This is a good temp fix but I would like to get it working with the three way if possible.
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post 13 Aug 2012, 04:07
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The 3 way can be done with push buttons & a diode matrix

http://brian-lambert.co.uk/Electrical-2.htm#Diode Matrix

and this for specifically for a 3way
http://www.hmrg.co.uk/techtops/3way.htm


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post 13 Aug 2012, 04:25
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QUOTE (Sol @ 13 Aug 2012, 05:07) *
The 3 way can be done with push buttons & a diode matrix

http://brian-lambert.co.uk/Electrical-2.htm#Diode Matrix

and this for specifically for a 3way
http://www.hmrg.co.uk/techtops/3way.htm


Thanks Sol, nice links. With a quick read however, this doesn't seem to solve the OP's problem - which is software based. Perhaps I missed it?
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post 13 Aug 2012, 08:43
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QUOTE (f1renz @ 13 Aug 2012, 04:59) *



I have done a temp diagram on RR&co. with the above image for the 3way only. I have set up with routes but notice that you have to reset back to the centre track before going to the top or bottom track as one of the ways it ends up pushes against another point blade. What do the push buttons do and what did you do to set them up. This is a good temp fix but I would like to get it working with the three way if possible.

Push buttons are a very useful feature and they can be used to carry out many operations, especially setting groups of points and signals. For example, I use one at each end of all my storage roads to set all the points into or out of that road for when I'm running a train manually. So a single mouse click sets up a whole route.

You create them by first going to the tools -> accessories tab and clicking on push button. Your mouse is now "primed" and when you click on a square on the switchboard a push button is created. Click on all 3 places where you want the button.

To configure them, right click on the button and select Properties and then the Operations tab. In the drop-down box on the left select turnouts. You double click on the two turnouts you need to change in the correct order, and at the bottom you can specify which direction. Make sure the operating state at the top is "on": this shown by the button having a yellow circle.

And that's it!


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post 13 Aug 2012, 18:57
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QUOTE (RFS @ 13 Aug 2012, 09:43) *
Push buttons are a very useful feature and they can be used to carry out many operations, especially setting groups of points and signals. For example, I use one at each end of all my storage roads to set all the points into or out of that road for when I'm running a train manually. So a single mouse click sets up a whole route.

You create them by first going to the tools -> accessories tab and clicking on push button. Your mouse is now "primed" and when you click on a square on the switchboard a push button is created. Click on all 3 places where you want the button.

To configure them, right click on the button and select Properties and then the Operations tab. In the drop-down box on the left select turnouts. You double click on the two turnouts you need to change in the correct order, and at the bottom you can specify which direction. Make sure the operating state at the top is "on": this shown by the button having a yellow circle.

And that's it!


Ahh, I think I remember what I did now...

I think it is possible to set the 'motor' of the three way to one of these switches if that makes sense. So Clicking the point actually activates the switch, which in turn operates the motors in the correct sequence.
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