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> Ready-made Semaphore Signals top poll, 'Most wanted' accessory
John Webb
post 3 May 2008, 16:58
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The recent poll carried out on Pat Hammond's Model Railway Express on-line magazine for a 'Wish List' for 2008 came up with ready-made operating semaphore signals as the most desired accessory - indeed they were the overall 1st choice, exceeding any single loco! (See also Model Rail's May issue, page 74.)

Desires expressed in previous years' polls have resulted in both locos and rolling stock being made by the major makers - let's hope they heed the results of this year's poll!

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Brian Considine
post 3 May 2008, 18:30
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I'm probably wrong on this but is there not a company called "Model Signal Engineering" producing ready made semaphore's or are they keit form and/or component form ?
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It's suprising that no-one already makes them. I'm sure they will appear soon. I hope. ermm.gif


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post 3 May 2008, 22:42
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Brian, MSE only make parts for signals. Ratio make kits.
To the best of my knowledge, there are no RTR semaphore signals for UK modelling.


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post 3 May 2008, 23:53
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You can only but hope that who ever decides to make them look very hard at what Brawa and Viessmann have done.

For a long time Brawa were the Germanic leaders in signals, the detail was excellent, but the mechanisim was very basic.

Viessmann now make signals that are not only the equal of Brawa in terms of detail, but have slow action motors which are fantastic.

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Hornby do or did some ready made signals...Not much detail but ready to operate via a motor..Could be an interesting detailing project.. Another alternative would be the old Dublo ones which would also be good for detailing...
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QUOTE (Sol @ 3 May 2008, 22:42) *
Brian, MSE only make parts for signals. Ratio make kits.


Sol, thanks for letting me know (my lack of knowledge of things UK showing !).

Looks like there is a market for (even) a generic ready to use semaphore then.
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QUOTE (john woodall @ 3 May 2008, 23:53) *
You can only but hope that who ever decides to make them look very hard at what Brawa and Viessmann have done.

For a long time Brawa were the Germanic leaders in signals, the detail was excellent, but the mechanisim was very basic.

Viessmann now make signals that are not only the equal of Brawa in terms of detail, but have slow action motors which are fantastic.

John


Yes John, the Viessmann especially are superb & the slow action is outstanding - just one small point though - there is no "bounce" as German signals do not bounce - AFAIK, if cable operated there are two cables, one to pull on & one to pull off, with some form of "fail safe" built in.

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QUOTE (jimmy @ 4 May 2008, 06:26) *
Hornby do or did some ready made signals...Not much detail but ready to operate via a motor..Could be an interesting detailing project.. Another alternative would be the old Dublo ones which would also be good for detailing...


Viessmann make a flush mounting slow action solenoid drive Cat.no4551 (retails around 9.50) with auxilary contacts - maybe of use here ?
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There maybe some kit makers out there, but they are not mainstream and they are perhaps not cheap. If say Hornby or Bachmann produced a range of ready made (ready to be electrified) signals - mechanical arm and early electrical, I'm sure that they would sell very well.


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The problem with the Ratio kits is that (with the exception of the 'rail post' models) they are all plastic and rather fragile for use on portable layouts or where small eager fingers are around. The signal arms are also rather overthick in scale.
MSE signals are good - being metal made they are not so fragile and the arms are a scale thickness. But you need soldering skills to assemble them.
The Hornby ready-made signals are tough, but a bit overscale and not immediately convertable to remote operation.

If you can find someone selling the old Hornby-Dublo signals you will be amazed at the prices usually asked for them. But they are quite reasonable in appearance and it would be nice if the present Hornby could perhaps get something similar back on the market?

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I'm sure that they would sell very well.

I'm not sure they would. The Veissman single arm signals sell for around 30.00 or more. There are plenty of comments on various forums about how much things should cost, realistic thoughts or otherwise. How many would pay for a simple starter signal of 30.00. When you get into bracket signals the cost would be far greater. I can see a market for a basic semaphore, but can't see the UK market forking out for 30.00 signals when some blanch at the price of Hornby LMS Staniers or Maunsels for example.


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QUOTE (papamikepapa @ 4 May 2008, 18:06) *
I'm not sure they would. The Veissman single arm signals sell for around 30.00 or more.


The max RRP for the VN4500 is 29.50, our price would be nearer to 25.00.
For this you get a precision made model with metal lattice mast, slow action mechanism with auxilary contacts (all out of sight under the baseboard) & correctly illuminated with LED's behind the spectacles.

What would you consider a fair price (that will sell well) for a generic UK equivelent ?
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Are any of those made in China?

If say Hornby made one for 15... ... just a thought. No idea how much they may sell something like this.


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QUOTE (Doug @ 4 May 2008, 19:43) *
Are any of those made in China?


Not too sure Doug - having said that some Veissmann & Brawa masts look so similar they could just be made in the same place.....................

Maybe a basic working UK semaphore would sell for around the 15 mark.
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