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post 6 Nov 2015, 11:39
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Hi Just Received These from MSL today the SBB Die Post wagons are Really Nice More Die Post wagons to Follow In Week50/51. Babs





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post 7 Nov 2015, 05:16
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OK Babz, let's keep this thread going.
This is not a really new purchase, but today I realised I don't have any photos of it, or posted them online.
This was on special for 130Euro about 18 months ago. Didn't need it, didn't run much in my prototype area, impulse purchase, but it is my era 3a, and it is a nice model...
It is the three car Vt 12 unit from Roco, catalogue 63132.....

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I think everyone needs one !

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post 7 Nov 2015, 06:32
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With you on that one 6991 - I picked up the Sound version in 2013 http://www.reynaulds.com/products/Roco/63133.aspx. It is a very nice set.

Babz - nice wagons - were they on special price?

Have been saving a few Euros here as it is the Munich Model Train show this weekend.
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post 7 Nov 2015, 17:44
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Hello 6991 & Reddo, Lets see if we can Keep this Thread going, I do like your Railcar . I have a set of these in N Gauge Arnold Runs really well 4 cars , But one of the couplings are broken and i cannot get the spares. I wont go into the Company In Germany that handles the Spares for Hornby International.

Reddo You could have told me it was The Munich Show i would have Flown Down In my LearJet Ha HA ( EasyJet ) I did Get the SBB Die Post Wagons for 66.60 Euro,s for 2 They come In pairs I am waiting for the yellow ones to come out Week 50/51 and there is also Heris ones in a pack of three coming out no date yet The DRG Wagon were 29 euros each.
I hope you enjoyed the show. I went to the Lancing MRC show today in West Sussex but it does not have the same ring to it as the Munich one. Babs
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post 7 Nov 2015, 18:48
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How interesting Babz, I went to South Lancing Primary School between 1959 and 1963.
In those days it had a thriving British Railways (Southern Region) Carriage Works - their open days were amazing and helped to sow the seed of railway disease.
A long way from beautiful Bulli NSW.
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post 7 Nov 2015, 22:52
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6991 How Nice and thank you for sharing, I'm afraid it is nothing like that now sad to say. Babs
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post 21 Nov 2015, 14:07
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HI Guy's Just Received these from MSL



The Other Part is to Follow Can Anybody Suggest which Locomotive that would hav pulled them Babs

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post 21 Nov 2015, 17:48
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Hello Babz,
Look, this will be a guide/guess, and I assume these wagons are marked up for somewhere in the 1924-28 era (it will be important just to check these dates on the wagons - get your magnifying glass out !).
In Germany at least, the route at this time looks like being Strasbourg - Kehl - Karlsruhe - Pforzheim - Stuttgart - Crailsheim - Nurnberg - Marktredwitz - Schirnding - Cheb. In the text it says that the two extra cars were added at Stuttgart (did these come from somewhere else, I wonder?).
So cutting this up into the logical Laenderbahn sectors, you could say that it was likely that a former Baden Pacific IVf or IVh could be used from Kehl to Pforzheim (or possibly Stuttgart, I'm not sure how picky they were at State borders in the 1920's). I think most of the IVh class were stationed at Offenburg after delivery so this would be logical.
For a prestige train like this, they'd want to use their best engines, so for the Wuerttemberg part, I'd say an 18.1 would be appropriate, possibly piloted by a T5 (75.0) for the initial stage out of Stuttgart. The 18.1 would stay with the train to Crailsheim, where likely a 18.4 or 18.5 would be the train engine. Probably anything from series a-f or h-k might be suitable - series k was delivered in 1923 or so. I have all the dates for these but I can't lay my fingers on the exact book at the moment, so I may change this.
The 18.4 or 18.5 would then likely take the train to Marktredwitz (possibly a change in Nurnberg). You could have engines with Bavarian numbers to 1926 when they were renumbered - so there are heaps of detail possibilities. It's also worth noting that three of the original series of Br 01 were delivered to Hof in 1926 as 01 005,6,7 so even these could be possible here for the run to/through Nurnberg.
These years were a time of great change : livery, numbers, nationalisation, so a lot of stuff could happen, however with this stock I reckon you want to keep it all pre-1930 maybe - and I don't know that much about earlyish Ep II. Maybe Marktredwitz to Schirnding could be a 38 even !!!
In short, there are a lot of possibilities, but they are not completely random... However, at 3.30am, unable to access my stuff for fear of waking others, it's the best I can do off the top of my head..
Interesting question, many possibilities, hope these are some ideas.
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post 21 Nov 2015, 18:34
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6991 What can i say, Thank you such a wealth of Knowledge i am Envious. I have two Dampf's that I can use. one is Roco and one is Fleischmann






I prefer the Roco one myself.Thank you once again Babs
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Hi Babz,
Too kind innocent.gif
The Fleischmann loco you illustrate represents the 18.6 class. This class was introduced in the early 1950s, they were rebuilds of the series' l to o built during the 1920s (18.509 - 18 548). These locos would not have hauled your train. The Roco model is beautiful. 18 417 was built in 1911 (part of series c).
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QUOTE (Babz @ 22 Nov 2015, 00:07) *
HI Guy's Just Received these from MSL

Hello,
From what I've seen elsewhere, it's a very nice set. I briefly considered it, but I'm not convinced that I could mix these blue cars with either my existing brown car set; or the later 1930s steel cars. I already have too many LS models coaches on pre-order anyway...

6991's list of potential locos is staggering. If you already own the 18.4 then use that. If you're buying another loco, then get an 18.1. People say the former Wurrtemburg 'C' is a beautiful loco; it turns out people are right.


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post 22 Nov 2015, 02:06
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Even though Matrix are bringing out a new version, there's nothing wrong with the Roco one...



This is the Epoche 3a version (last one was withdrawn in 1955). They also did Ep 1 and Ep 2 versions.. and a special Wuerttemberg wagon set, which we have discussed on other threads.
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post 22 Nov 2015, 15:43
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HI Adrian & 6991, I'm afraid i will have to use the ones i have got I Favour the Roco one as my Budget for anymore big redand Blacks has run out. Sadly I have Plenty of running stock. Babs
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post 22 Nov 2015, 17:11
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I just re-read my last post - and I notice it didn't make much sense ! and I should have said that the Roco engine is absolutely ideal for your rolling stock smile.gif . It is a lovely engine.
Just keep the 18.6 away from the stock.
When I said
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These locos would not have hauled your train.
- the statement referred to the engines of the class 18.6 and not 18 417 !!
Sorry Babz, for the confusion, it was 3am and one of the cats was scratching at my door to be let out.
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post 22 Nov 2015, 18:14
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6991 Thank you for all of that. Can i have a pic of your cat please by PM. Regarding the confusion I am now very delighted i have a good engine to haul the Coaches. Than you once again Babs
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