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post 31 Mar 2010, 23:17
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Thanks - fingers crossed!

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post 23 Aug 2010, 17:51
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If you DO find them, I might appreciate one or two more sending my way, too ...
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post 23 Aug 2010, 19:16
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Hi

I dabbled in Z Gauge for a while.

I can confirm that the 47's were made ready to run by a Company called Ellmar Products Ltd.

I still have mine plus all it's packaging. It is no other than 47712 "Lady Diana Spencer" in BR large logo blue livery. I have a feeling they made another in BR blue too.

As has been said already, they fit directly onto a Marklin Co-Co chassis.

I think they were only made for a short while in the early 90's.

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post 29 Aug 2010, 21:57
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On eBay, user ID ant1969hill is selling British outline diesel locos and railcar sets. As I know nothing about British outline, cannot help beyond that.

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post 25 Jan 2011, 00:19
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Ellmar did indeed do the 47 way back when. Yate models still had some of the resin shells recently.

They suffer the same problem all the stuff I've seen using German chassis however - they are oversize. The German locos are a good foot wider than the UK ones, and that plus the thickness of material means that short of thin brass tight to the chassis you are going to be overscale
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post 11 Dec 2012, 07:57
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FYI

http://www.ebay.com/itm/Ellmar-Products-Lt...=item5650175bc7


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post 11 Dec 2012, 12:22
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Hi Etched Pixels.

So I guess we have the same situation as we have with 16.5mm gauge (UK OO 1:76, EU: HO 1:87), 12mm gauge (UK TT 1:102, EU TT 1:120) and 9mm gauge (UK N 1:148, EU N 1:160). So now we have 6.5mm gauge (UK Z 1:???, EU Z 1:220). Are we surprised?

Basically, we have smaller prototypes than most countries, probably because we were the first?

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post 12 Dec 2012, 08:46
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G'day Gary.
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post 26 Feb 2013, 21:28
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Current state of play seems to be

Relica resin copies of Elmar class 47 bodies crop up on Ebay along with very nice decals to do
Virgin
intercity
Colas
Anglia and other liveries
same guy does intercity decals to repaint swiss bogie coaches to make MkIIIs
Graham Jones does
HST bodyshells in resin.
class 66 and class 24 bodyshells in RPD (done by shapeways) and is working on Mk1 coaches

I do a class 56 bodyshell mainly for my own layout but can supply if anybody wants one.
the marklin 0-6-0 can be easily converted into a very plausible class 07

steam outline
graham does an A3,and A4 in white metal


Newstead models in Scotland used to do
class 90s and EM2s bodyshells in plasticard with printed overlays plus coach overlays.

there is probably a load more that don't come to mind. If anybody is interested I'll start chucking some picture on here so you can see what they look like.

Goods stock is easy if you dont mind doing some repainting of continental stock and want to do 1990s outline

KEV

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here are some examples
resin 47 with intercity decals on marklin BR103 chassis



resin HST power cabs with modified N scale decals on BR11 chassis



an early example of one of my class 56 shells again on a BR103 chaasis



One of Graham A3s mounted on marklin German 4-6-2 chassis with LMS 57ft stock using my preprinted sides



I'll put some more on tomorrow

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As exhibition manager, I would like to have z guage layout(s) at our next show in 1th September, 2020. Any Z gaugers within a 60 mile radius would be welcome. Is there a Z gauge society, I have looked on Google with no success even a register of quality Z gauge layouts would be very much appreciated!


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