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post 6 Jan 2020, 20:00
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Hornby have released details of their new products for 2020. This year marks the 100th anniversary of Frank Hornby founding the company which bears his name. Hornby are marking the occasion by including some special models in the range. You can read the full list of new models on this page on the Hornby website.

Hornby have also produced an edition of 'The Signal Box' on You Tube which gives a rundown of the range


For the first time in a long time, it looks like I might be tempted to 'collect' quite a few of these new releases.

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post 12 Jan 2020, 16:39
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A good range I think . Lots I could buy. I’ve put an order in for Rocket in the Tr-ang commermorative box . Interested in APT too but yet to figure out all the options
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post 12 Jan 2020, 21:36
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I gather most retailers have sold or over sold their commemorative boxed Rockets given how many they will each get has not yet been established - can't say it attracts me, anything in a Triang box IME was old, usually poorly running and with wheels that would suit a steamroller. I would expect their will be a number of further Rocket sets or individual items in the future.

The carriage names of the commemorative set reflect those used by Triang, Dispatch, Experience and Times ,while the other set has Globe, Renown and Wellington. None therefore replicate the coaches to be seen with the current Replica, which also is normally to be seen with an open coach or tw0. Hornby are marketing the current ones as Rocket in its 1829 condition but its questionable whether their were actually any vehicles other than wagons which had seating fitted inside them at the time of the Rainhill trails.


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post 12 Jan 2020, 23:51
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Adding slightly to b-h's post above: The major retailers appear to be selling out of their allocations very rapidly on both Rocket sets. I didn't want to commit to one so quickly, but have placed a pre-order with Kernow Model Centre for the 'ordinary' set (Hatton's are all pre-sold already). I don't see the need for the Triang commemorative packaging for myself, as my model is intended to be for occasional use. I can understand collectors wanting that version, though.
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QUOTE (butler-henderson @ 12 Jan 2020, 22:36) *
...I would expect there will be a number of further Rocket sets or individual items in the future.

Difficult to gauge that, Hornby don't have a terrific record in 'continuity' even with successful models! My advice to a couple of friends
who were havering over whether to purchase was to consider how disappointed they would be if this proved to be their only chance to
buy this item new in the near future.

(I can see that nine and ten years ahead, the Bicentenaries of the Rainhill trials and opening of the Liverpool and Manchester Railway
will provide an occasion for a re-release.)
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post 13 Jan 2020, 20:02
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Rails had sold out their centenary version of the Rocket by the evening of the announcement. I am happy enough to settle for the 'standard' edition to add to my collection of "Fastest trains in the world".

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Hornby don't have a terrific record in 'continuity' even with successful models!

Indeed! I'm waiting for a few more pre-war condition K class Pullmans to go with the first five they produced. The second batch were post war with dark roofs being the most obvious difference.

Still with a full set of Coronation coaches and a comprehensive list of APT coaches perhaps times are changing? Their colleagues at Rivarossi are re-releasing their VSOE cars.

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According to postings by a Warners magazine editor(etc) on another forum area who has discussed the availability of the Rocket sets with Hornby, the Hornby reps will be given the role of allocating the Rocket sets to shops which is yet to happen so those saying they have sold out of Rocket are simply guessing at the moment how many they will get, and they may get less or more. Apparently shops which have done the greater amount of business with Hornby will be favoured first.
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post 14 Jan 2020, 19:03
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Apparently shops which have done the greater amount of business with Hornby will be favoured first.

Modellbahnshop Lippe posted the Centenary edition on their website yesterday. Not seen much Hornby there previously so I wonder how they'll fare wink.gif

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QUOTE (butler-henderson @ 14 Jan 2020, 18:24) *
According to postings by a Warners magazine editor(etc) on another forum area who has discussed the availability of the Rocket sets with Hornby, the Hornby reps will be given the role of allocating the Rocket sets to shops which is yet to happen so those saying they have sold out of Rocket are simply guessing at the moment how many they will get, and they may get less or more. Apparently shops which have done the greater amount of business with Hornby will be favoured first.


If said editor is correct, it would have been wiser to do the allocation and let the shops know before they were taking orders. That would be a rather new system, well away from shops making a guess at possible sales and ordering accordingly, at which stage they would be informed how much of the order could be fulfilled..... before customers ordered and then later getting the order cancelled. Ummm...??

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QUOTE (Julian2011 @ 14 Jan 2020, 21:15) *
If said editor is correct, it would have been wiser to do the allocation and let the shops know before they were taking orders. That would be a rather new system, well away from shops making a guess at possible sales and ordering accordingly, at which stage they would be informed how much of the order could be fulfilled..... before customers ordered and then later getting the order cancelled. Ummm...??

Forum feeding frenzy...? salt anyone??

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I tried to Edit this post and it didn't accept the edit, presumably timed out.

This is the Edited reply:-

Said Editor said that the allocation for sets [ie. the number of sets to be available to a shop] are being decided by the reps, which enables the shops to order whatever number they wish, up to the number in their allocation. It didn't seem clear to me, when the reps would do [have done?] that decision making. It also said that [seemingly as of Sunday 12th] they had not sold out. It will be interesting how the Hornby statement plays out.

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QUOTE (dwb @ 14 Jan 2020, 20:03) *
Modellbahnshop Lippe posted the Centenary edition on their website yesterday. Not seen much Hornby there previously so I wonder how
they'll fare ...

I suppose that this will come down to the Hornby Group's internal integration. Do stockists of the Hornby International ranges get a look
in? Now here's something I do know, at least one continental European HO modeller is interested in a Rocket set. Kees has lamented for
a while the lack of a good 'Rocket' to go with his other models of early locos, and will be buying, having seen the images.
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