[Garry D100]

Hornby have now issued their 2006 information, but lets not forget about Bachmann.

What do we think the releases will be, we know about a Class 47 and most of the early year will be on catch up from last year I suspect.

Does anyone have any information for their 2006 new releases?

Hornby in my opinion have done us proud, but can Bachmann pull something out of the hat to equally impress?

Garry

 

[5696Arethusa]

Well being as it always takes sooo long from the announcement to the product arriving in the shops maybe we can still influence them. I'd like BR std 2 and 4 mogals. A nice black 78019 would be just what the doctor ordered, visiting my fictitious line from the GCR.

Maybe they could get one up on Hornby and do a super detail class 43. they already have a couple of twin bogie drive Bo-Bo locos

 

[Gary]

Bachmann would normally be expected to announce their new range at the 2006 London Toy Fair.

Model Rail magazine gave full coverage to the Hornby 2005 range in February's edition and to the Bachmann 2005 range in the March edition.

Model Rail Forum may well be attending the London Toy Fair so watch this space!

Happy modelling
Gary

 

[spongebob]

Pleeease Bachmann NO MORE SOUTHERN STUFF. Have you noticed how the majority of Bachmann's catalogue is BR green or black stuff? I think i'd like to see them sort out the class 37 and 40 (third time lucky boys).
I too wouldn't mind the moguls mentioned by Arethusa shouldn't be too hard as they already have a succesful 2-6-0 chassis. I notice that hornby got one up on them by making their old jinty DCC ready a big cock up on the part of bachmann nowadays to turn out anything new regardless of size without an NMRA socket on it.
Maybe they could do a 4-4-0 tender engine of some sort to get back at them.

 

[spongebob]

apologies for the lack of punctuation on that last posting btw

 

[5696Arethusa]

There must be some really difficult technical challenges to be overcome in doing a modern standard 4-4-0 as neither Hornby or Bachmann do one, getting all the weight over the drivers without the drivetrain encroaching the cab, would anyone object if they set it up more like a Bo-Bo diesel and have the leading wheels driven as well to try and get round this?

Spongebob, have you noticed the "edit" button in the bottom right of your own posts? you can go back at a later time and edit your posts if you look at them and don't like what you've done, like a lack of punctuation or you want to add something else to your post. I've noticed other people doing this and have tried it out once myself.

 

[Gary]

From Bachmann and posted on their website:-

QUOTE Information regarding our 2006 range of Bachmann Branchline and Graham Farish models will be released in conjunction with the London Toy Fair.

Details will also be posted on this website from 1200hrs. on Wednesday 25th January

Model Rail Forum will be attending the London Toy Fair.

Happy modelling
Gary

 

[nnich]

Hello all

So what is the best guess from everyone for Bachmann 2006? Compared to the hornby guesses in december this topic is about dead

Lets have some fun and post your guesses while we wait until Jan 25th (and please - no more jokes about a Fairburn tank and a 9F!! )

Before the 2005 releases were posted, it was rumoured (or perhaps even stated, I can't remember) that they planned 2 Southern Region engines in the next couple of years. The original info came from Pat Hammond on http://www.mremag.co.uk if I recall). Now - this could mean two prototypes that could reasonably appear on the Southern Region, and be represented by the afore mentioned Fairburn, and perhaps a BR Standard 76xxx for this year. However perhaps we might really get the "year of the Southern" and get another model from Bachmann. Various other rumours have mentioned an S15 4-6-0, a T9 4-4-0 and an O2 0-4-4T

I'll start the guessing (for steam loco prototypes) with an O2 and a 76xxx standard

Lets hear from you all

 

[spongebob]

i think it would be funny if they were planning a king arthur and an M7. Lets face it they have doubled up with something for the last couple of years, the grange,class 57 and 66 for example. luckily we've only had one actual duplicate and that was the 57 though. Perhaps a logical follow on from the 9f would be a WD 2-10-0, though maybe thats one for next year. Perhaps they could follow the A1 with an A2. Can anyone remember what else scored highly on last years wish list as that looks like what hornby go from.

 

[Gary]

The editor of Model Rail speculates on the LNER O4 2-8-0 as they could use the tender on their Colletts. And possibly a superdetail HST to modern standards.

General comments made about 4-4-0's and 0-6-0's as whilst this arrangement the most common in the UK it is less so in model form.

What about a Dukedog or is that a bit old for Bachmann?

Plenty of coach options offered including ones suitable for the new SR modellers and the Hawksworth and Thompson.

I think it would be incredibly funny if they did the Blue Pullman after the comments we have had from reported from Hornby!

Happy modelling
Gary

 

[nnich]

I have observed that Bachmann have little history of adapting models to produce other similar models. For example the Class "N" could have been used to produce a model of the similar "U", or "N1" but they've never done it. the only example in their range that I can think of is the adaptation of the 8750 to the 57xx pannier tank, and that may be because the 57xx was originated by Mainline and Bachmann themselves morphed it into the later cab version so it was probebly easier to change it back. Bottom line is that perhaps we should not be expecting them to do the obvious and use the "Mucky Duck" chassis for a BR atandard 2-6-0, or update the Ivatt 2-6-2

If there was another potential for possible duplication between Bachmann and Hornby then perhaps that is where we would see the S15 (or even an H15) rather than the King Arthur, and an O2 instead of an M7. As I write I wonder if this is why Bachmann annouce their program a month later and take much longer to deliver it - is to give themselves time to change their prototypes if needed???

I do agree with spongebob though - a WD 2-10-0 would be a cool model - meantime this speculation is all the more fun while we wait

 

[JohnR]

I am not going to complain if Bachmann do an S15 and an O2! Somehow I doubt it about the O2, but I have heard several rumours about the S15.

 

[Jennings]

My predictions (All modern image ...)
- Virgin 57 with Dellnar coupling
- 57601 in WCRC livery (As a limited edition most likley)
- Freightliner 66 with the older light clusters
- GBRf 66 with the Newer style lights

As for new brand new releases a 222 (4 car) meridian or a 180 adelante i'd place a bet on (Please note as i have no money no bets will be placed)

I would like to suspect that either 66951 / 952 might appear, but due to having the extra door on the side it would be rather unlikley.

QUOTE (nnich)Lets have some fun and post your guesses while we wait until Jan 25th (and please - no more jokes about a Fairburn tank and a 9F!! )

Ah but you didn't say anything about the 108's being released.

 

[Rail-Rider]

QUOTE with Dellnar coupling
That's a new one on me!
Any chance of expansion on "dellnar" please?

 

[Jennings]

Its what allows the 57/3's to couple to Pendolino's / Voyagers. (I'm guessing i spelt it a tad wrong ...

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Bachmann's first prototype of it had it moulded into the front of the cab, but it was dropped from the production model that appeared a Warley.

 

[5696Arethusa]

Whilst I don't think they will produce it I'd like to see them do a D49 and just to make it that bit more special how about making it a caparotti valve gear version, failing that a caparotti std 5 would make a change. Another unlikely loco I'd like to see would fit right in with their love of the BR stndards and that is the standard 6 "Clan" class.
Would welcome an GCR 8K (LNER O4) and how about an LNER pacific tank.
For modern image, how about a honking great class 92 with a decent set of overhead power lines.

 

[spongebob]

QUOTE (Jennings @ 9 Jan 2006, 17:18)Its what allows the 57/3's to couple to Pendolino's / Voyagers.
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Or at least that was the idea anyway even if in practise they'd have been better off with a good stout tow rope. According to the railway press no 2 dellner couplings are an exact match and more often than not the thunderbird loco is incapable of coupling up to the pendolino.

 

[Rail-Rider]

Sorry Jen, I wasn't thinking about the spelling but about what 'dellnar', however spelled, really is? It sounds vaguely like a nylon type MATERIAL, but maybe it's the name for a particualr TYPE of coupling. It intrigued me, because I haven't a clue and I am a nosey so-and-so! Always looking for new knowledge.

 

[Rail-Rider]

Oh, the magic of the Internet!

After a few false starts on 'dellnar' and 'delnar', I eventually found
Dellner Couplers
a Swedish company specialising in sophisticated, full size coupling solutions, mainly, though not exclusively, for trains.
Now I'm happy.

Right off topic and apologies for this, but some Dellner pics of the Norwegian high-speed train that runs between Gardermoen Airport and Oslo city centre

 

[60134]

Dellners have been appearing on increasing numbers of UK trains recently - I think they first appeared on Eurostars which meant that "Thunderbirds" needed a Dellner conversion (were some 37s so fitted?) and barrier vehicles also had to have adapters. I think many of the new generation DMUs and EMUs plus the Pendolino fleet are so equipped but stand to be corrected.

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