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Is it me or has there been a distinct lack of rumour or leaked information as to the production plans for Hornby and Bachmann next year. A few years ago at this time of year we were getting snippits of information as to the plans of these companies for the following year. Now its all gone very tight lipped.

Has anyone received any information that might hint at next years production schedules for Hornby and Bachmann. With all these good models I like advance warning to budget for them
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I am not too sure that we did get snippets of information in the past. Hornby have traditionally released their news on 1st January and this goes back a long way. Bachmann have less of a tradition but they do get the news out in time for the magazine deadlines in January.

Hornby have said that they will be launching their own digital command control system in 2006 and this has been flagged up.

Maybe Bachmann are beginning to realise that it does not do them any favours to provide news of new models well in advance of production and Hornby have always released news at the beginning of January. The only time in the last 5 or 6 years that I can remember Hornby releasing news about a new model in the middle of the year was when they announced the Merchant Navy. And as this was to be the first of a new breed of Hornby model then it was big news at the time.

Similarly Live Steam was big news and that was announced in the month of September.

Anything else that you hear is entirely rumour and gossip until the manufacturers confirm the rumour and gossip.

In terms of Bachmann though think about this...

They seem to produce prototype models and exhibit these a year or more before production. Generally the prototypes are a bit sloppy and not that well put together with boiler doors that are lopsided and handrails that are twisted and so on and so forth.

I do wonder if this is a strategy so that they can get feedback from the rivet counters which then helps Bachmann go on to produce a better model!


A very cost effective way of producing great looking models!


Happy modelling
Gary
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I heard from a source that Hornby are considering putting their own ringfield motors and running gear into a number of former Lima OO products and will upgrade the models in the same way that they are upgrading the continental range. They are definitely not going to go with the Lima running gear as this just is not transferable to China.

Hornby are not into limited edition models and this fascination with limited editions contributed to the downfall of Lima. So don't expect the same from Hornby given that they do reintroduce some of the former Lima range.

There was also a rumour of a new Live Steam model next year that should appeal to Southern Railways enthusiasts.

I have just opened my new January edition of Model Rail and there is a massive feature on GWR railcars. These are very popular with modellers and surely the case for a relaunch of the GWR railcar is stronger than the blue Pullman?

Why have Model Rail suddenly gone big on this topic I wonder?

Happy modelling
Gary
QUOTE i cant imagine hornby putting in ringfeild motors into the lima stock

I can! It is a simple solution that requires little modification to a lot of the existing Lima products. Maybe two new small molds and a chassis mold modification tops. The Lima range probably is not of the quality to take it seriously upmarket but as a value product then there is a lot of potential. However as stated this is unlikely to happen until 2007.

Think of what Hornby did to the former Mainline Class 56. Its a reasonable model for the money and a good reliable runner. I've got a weathered example.

I suspect that the Lima OO steam range is a bit of a dodo though with the only one that could possibly be of interest and resurected being the Class J50 tank.

Happy modelling
Gary
Hornby probably have plenty of projects in hand over the next year or two that they consider to have better commercial potential. Note that the language used is postponed not abandoned.

As an example Blue Pullman or SR EMU?


If you were Hornby which new tooling would you invest in given the current concensus in magazines and on the internet?

This has to influence thinking.

Now I don't have any insight whatsoever into what Hornby are planning but it is always interesting to read the rumour and gossip from those who claim to have!

Happy modelling
Gary
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Noting the Heritage Railway magazine story:-

QUOTE POP mogul Pete Waterman has held talks with multi-millionaire steam locomotive owner Jeremy Hosking about the sale of BR Britannia Pacific No 70000 Britannia.

QUOTE The popularity of the class is such that model maker Hornby is to release an all-new high-detailed version of it in 2006 - with Britannia, Oliver Cromwell, William Wordsworth and Firth of Tay the first off the production line!

I believe Jeremy Hosking is the largest private shareholder in Hornby. The Times last summer had this to say about the Marathon three of which Mr Hosking is one:-

QUOTE While it is owned by a Jersey trust, we assume that the three directors own a third each. Hosking, a railway buff, also has a £3.4m stake in Hornby, the quoted model railway group. We value the stakes of the Marathon three at £73m apiece, adding £20m to each of them for past salaries.

I wonder if Mr Hosking buys a preserved version of every new model hornby produce!


Happy modelling
Gary
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Pat Hammond's MRE is certainly a marathon read today!

I have noted this comment made by the editor:-

QUOTE Judging by what Hornby were showing to the model railway press this week, they will not be pulling in their horns next year and Lima is certainly not dead. More on January 1st - Ed.

Interesting.

Happy modelling
Gary

MRE can be visited by clicking the link below:-

http://www.mremag.demon.co.uk/hpsite/index.htm
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QUOTE One former Tri-ang model will be returning next year, using the old tooling - Ed

Whatever, if it is popular then who knows what could be next!

Now the EM2 was at Warley....

Happy modelling
Gary
The focus of attention is on Hornby however there is also Bachmann, Heljan, Dapol, Peco and others.

What are the thoughts on these?

Heljan will bring out the Class 26 and Peco the N gauge Collett. Heljan won't confirm or deny that they are looking at possible steam prototypes. Peco do have plans for another tender loco based around the 0-6-0 tender drive running gear that they have developed.

Dapol definitely have N gauge plans in mind and may introduce a tender based steam loco and another modern outline loco. Dapol have no plans for any OO gauge loco models.

There has been very little public speculation about the Bachmann plans and they cover O, OO and N gauges.

Happy modelling
Gary
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Hornby have provided Model Rail Forum with stunning material that has not been made available to the Hornby Collectors Club magazine or any other magazine!

Model Rail Forum are developing relationships with a number of manufacturers and this is based on trust.

What would you do folks in these circumstances?


Have us break that trust that has built up?

We would like to think that Model Rail Forum members and visitors respect our reasons for this. We are thinking of you after all!


Why not turn up at Model Rail Forum just after midnight on New Years day and see the stunning material for yourself!


And invite all you mates over and join the party. They will thank you for the invite! Trust us on this!


At the end of the day its a bit of fun for everybody concerned, there is a lot of tradition behind this, and I do believe that there are some folk who, even in this day and age, get slightly excited at the prospect of seeing the new Hornby range officially unveiled at one minute past midnight on News Years Day!

Its a tradition that I personally like!


Happy modelling
Gary
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