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Could any of the learned readers of this forum, with a knowledge of LMS Black 5s, tell me which is the appropriate Hornby loco and tender to use as a donor engine to renumber into '44911'.

This is the locomotive that was loaned to the Eastern Region in the late 1950s to be used in connection with the introduction of AWS. I know it was based ( but not allocated to ) at 34A Kings Cross Top Shed and used on the Hull lodging turns as there is reference to it in P. Townend's book "Top Shed".

I would be grateful for any information that may be forthcoming.
 

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QUOTE (MASTER CUTLER @ 23 May 2008, 04:37) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>Could any of the learned readers of this forum, with a knowledge of LMS Black 5s, tell me which is the appropriate Hornby loco and tender to use as a donor engine to renumber into '44911'.

This is the locomotive that was loaned to the Eastern Region in the late 1950s to be used in connection with the introduction of AWS. I know it was based ( but not allocated to ) at 34A Kings Cross Top Shed and used on the Hull lodging turns as there is reference to it in P. Townend's book "Top Shed".

I would be grateful for any information that may be forthcoming.

I have lots of LMS data so here are a few details - I have no idea which hornby model includes them - I suspect that not all details will be correct on any hornby model - you need to get a long firebox version with part rivetted tender + the Brassmasters detail kit to make the loco you want!! Brassmasters detail kits have lots of loco history as part of the instructions.

Long firebox
part rivetted tender (when built anyway) with rectangular vents not mushroom type
27'2" wheelbase
Dome on centre boiler ring
rivetted buffer beam
rivetted balance weights
fluted rods

I don't have it handy so thats all I can do for now - but a copy of the illustrated history of LMS loco's Vol 5 will be really helpful to you (by D jenkinson and bob essery)

Richard
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QUOTE (Richard Johnson @ 23 May 2008, 04:10) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>I have lots of LMS data so here are a few details - I have no idea which hornby model includes them - I suspect that not all details will be correct on any hornby model - you need to get a long firebox version with part rivetted tender + the Brassmasters detail kit to make the loco you want!! Brassmasters detail kits have lots of loco history as part of the instructions.

Long firebox
part rivetted tender (when built anyway) with rectangular vents not mushroom type
27'2" wheelbase
Dome on centre boiler ring
rivetted buffer beam
rivetted balance weights
fluted rods

I don't have it handy so thats all I can do for now - but a copy of the illustrated history of LMS loco's Vol 5 will be really helpful to you (by D jenkinson and bob essery)

Richard
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Hi Richard,
Many thanks for that information, it is most helpfull. I will try to get a copy of the book on Amazon or Ebay.
 

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That's what I love about this forum - depth on knowledge!
What is clear is that even with "standard" classes you need to check the details of every individual - the Jubilees are notorious for the number of variations as well!

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QUOTE (60134 @ 23 May 2008, 09:50) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>That's what I love about this forum - depth on knowledge!
What is clear is that even with "standard" classes you need to check the details of every individual - the Jubilees are notorious for the number of variations as well!

Very very true - even the BR Standards weren't - especially the 9Fs!

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