A few questions about the Graham Farish Class 101

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sambwoy

Discussion Starter · Feb 11, 2009 (Edited by Moderator)

I bought a BR blue 'dummy' set and wanted to make a few changes to it before running it on a layout. It must be one of the original Grafar releases from 1983/84 judging by the box design and supplements that came in the box. The set was originally motored, but the original owner must have had two sets and taken away the motor cars, thus selling the set second-hand as just two dummies.

I have a few questions;

REMOVING THE CAR BODY FROM THE CHASSIS
I would like to replace the all over blue bodies with either blue-grey, NSE or Regional Railways. How would I remove the body from the chassis?

IMPROVED MOTORING
Are there alternative motors to the Graham Farish Class 101

COUPLINGS
Are there any manufacterers that produce closer replacement couplings from the Grafar 101s?
Or, if there are methods of making the couplings yourself, is there anyone who has done this?

EXTRA DETAILING
Are there any extra detailing parts available?

REGION OF OPERATIONS
Just out of interest, the vehicle codes on the sides appeared to have 'M' before them. Does this suggest that the class operated on the Midland Region? On which lines would they have run?

Thank you very much

sambwoy.

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Dinwiddy

· #2 · Feb 11, 2009

QUOTE (sambwoy @ 11 Feb 2009, 14:59) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>Cl 101 .... original Grafar releases from 1983/84 ------ Probably used the original single motor bogie which has not been available for some time
IMPROVED MOTORING

Are there alternative motors to the Graham Farish Class 101
I have not used them yet but for a wide choice of N (and other scales) power bogies try looking at
www.motorbogies.com/

David Y

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Grahame

· #3 · Feb 11, 2009

It's quite possible to re-motorise and upgrade the old Farish class 101dmu.

In fact I've not long finished a project to re-motorise and upgrade the detail on a NSE one, which was one of the livery options that
they produced it in. I used a motor chassis from one of the new class 108s which just about drops straight in. Added details include
roof radio pods, new buffers, new roof vents, bufferbeam details, new corridor connections, new end exhausts, rims on the marker
lights, flush glazing for the cab and so on. I've written up the details of what and how I did it, and it should be appearing in a model
railway mag in a few months time. Here's a pic of it;

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Edwin

· #4 · Feb 11, 2009 (Edited by Moderator)

A pretty comprehensive history of the class here (though a bit out of date, the last ones went out of service around 2002):
http://www.railcar.co.uk/his100-109/101intro.htm

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sambwoy

Discussion Starter · #5 · Feb 13, 2009 (Edited by Moderator)

That's an excellent model. Do you mean that the 101 body fits right onto the 108 chassis, and it has all the right underframe details? Did you weather those?

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Grahame

· #6 · Feb 13, 2009

QUOTE (sambwoy @ 13 Feb 2009, 15:37) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>Do you mean that the 101 body fits right onto the 108 chassis, and it has all the right underframe details?

The body is the correct size but some modelling work needs to be undertaken to both the inside of the 101 and the 108 chassis to make them fit exactly. It's not onerous and should be within the capabilities of most modellers. The underframe was adapted to make it correct for a 101 and lightly weathered - but again it was simple and quick modelling.

G.

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