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A group build....

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A few people have suggested another group build, so here's what I'm suggesting

We take a basic Dapol kit like this:

http://www.newmodellersshop.co.uk/images/d...ached-house.jpg

and build it, no racing ahead just take the kit and we discuss a) how to build it, b)how to improve it, c) weathering and finishing, and possibly d) fitting into the landscape.

I picked the building above for two reasons, firstly it's a very simple kit, and secondly it's widely available.

So, who's going to join in?

Regards
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QUOTE (sarah @ 15 Apr 2013, 14:24) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>This build has certainly made me look more closely at houses lately!


Hi Sarah

Ever since I decided to build my market square I have turned into a sort of building nerd. Looking at all sorts of details like door frames and chimneys. I keep thinking how I would go about making some of the features that I see. The men in white coats will be calling soon


Stu
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QUOTE (StuB @ 15 Apr 2013, 17:29) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>Hi Chris

Please do join in. This is meant to be a learning exercise for all taking part and the more different ideas and techniques that get shown the better.

Stu

OK, will do, I'll pick up a kit sometime this week, I have already thought of what to do, loosely (very!) based on this:



Cheers, Chris.
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The more the merrier, Chris. That is some building there!

Stu, I keep thinking "that would make a good model" of many buildings (etc.) that I see.
QUOTE (sarah @ 15 Apr 2013, 19:55) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>The more the merrier, Chris. That is some building there!

Thanks Sarah. Like I said, loosely!


Cheers, Chris.
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Hi Chris

Starting with such a superb quality kit as this that building should be no problem. The back door can form part or the fence on the right and then just dump the rest of the kit and start from scratch.


Stu
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Now then Stu!

That really made me laugh


But yes, the Front Door, and the Back Door too, would fit the fence with little modification!
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QUOTE (sarah @ 8 Apr 2013, 09:40) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>>SNIPPED

Incidently, there are some Semi-detached houses in Upton that are very much the same as the Metcalfe semi kits.



Some of the "Metcalfe" Houses in Upton, Chester.

OK, so a bit Off Topic, but they are houses!
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QUOTE (StuB @ 16 Apr 2013, 07:39) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>Hi Chris

Starting with such a superb quality kit as this that building should be no problem. The back door can form part or the fence on the right and then just dump the rest of the kit and start from scratch.


Stu

Stu,


The image is just for some inspiration, like I said "loosely", very!

I'm aiming to keep as much of the original kit as possible, but it will be heavily Bashed, Grand Designs, here we come!

I've ordered two of the kits today, and as a clue for you all, I've got some of these solar powered garden LED's:



Cheers, Chris.
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QUOTE I know Ratio do a plastic fret of guttering etc, but it seems expensive for a very small amount.

You got an old/broken umbrella ? You could use the "stays'",from that............
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My CO27 arrived to day.

I've unpacked, and trimmed the spare plastic. Ive painted the roof, the walls, the bottom of the window frames, the doors and the garage doors. Glued the two chimney walls ready to paint. barring the chimneys. Painted the gutters. Going fassssssst.
Then. I take a look at putting the windows in place, and am astonished to find the rubbish side ends up on the outside, and the good side on the inside! I checked the paperwork - it definitely reads that way...unless I am being stupid (not unknown
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1. Is this correct?
2. If it's correct WHY?
I did not intend to do the inside, just slap some curtains on and maybe a picture like Hornby/Bachmann. Do I really have to waste the best side on the inside????
Can anyone please put me wise

Stumped

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QUOTE (StuB @ 15 Apr 2013, 17:57) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>Hi Sarah

Ever since I decided to build my market square I have turned into a sort of building nerd. Looking at all sorts of details like door frames and chimneys. I keep thinking how I would go about making some of the features that I see. The men in white coats will be calling soon


Stu

Glad to hear I'm not alone. Every time I'm on some of the open bits of the District Line like West Brompton I fantasize about building it, & a detailed picture of the brickwork of the towers of Battersea Power station had me jotting down some plans...

QUOTE (TheBufoon @ 15 Apr 2013, 18:39) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>OK, will do, I'll pick up a kit sometime this week, I have already thought of what to do, loosely (very!) based on this:

Cheers, Chris.

Some modern stuff is so much easier to scratchbuild, I find. It must be all the flat edges & neat corners!
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Ok no response re the window isssue, so using copydex - which actually allows me to test it out prior to the final weathering. (am certain you do put best side in side ...madness)
So it's the 1970's .....




The windows have ribbon cut to make the nets and curtains
A piece of plastic behind garage doors painted dirty black.


The front and back door have green 'stained' glass. Added the 22 to the wrong door...didn't realise diffeent sizes and added decal fix oh
I remember some nutter doing the rather large numbers






Scenery all nicked off layout. The cork base was a really old colour tester, clearly it needs a lot of work.....
I will weather and pretty up, but nothing will be fixed as must all go back to their actual homes.
Where the owner got the grotty green from.....defies good taste
all thanks to citadel
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Hi Jaz

Sorry about the no response, I have been volunteering on a Neolithic House building experimental project near Salisbury, model building at 12" to the foot.

You have discovered why we have been joking about the quality of this kit. It really is a mess but that has been part of the fun to try and make something decent out of it. You may have noticed my solution to the windows near the start of the thread where I used a machine to remove a whole layer to clean up the ejection pin marks. I think it is me that put off a lot of the early participants so its good to see someone else having a go.

That's a nice little scene you have created and it sets the house off very well. Good job.

Stu
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Well thank you very much.
I googled the Dapol and looked at least one other forum, and the attempts I found were not as good as yours. So I look on you posting early as something to learn from. So thank you for giving me something to aspire to.

I believe as you do that just because a really fine attempt has been posted does not mean that others should not consider having a go, enjoying themselves, and hopefully posting their attempts. It's not about whose best, it's the learning curve that counts.Looking at how other people address the build.
I have decided to just slap the paint on it without tweaking the building,( almost sidetracked for a Wills lean to greenhouse tho' )
Just to see what I could get. Looking closely at mine you see those same 'holes' Thought about filling them, but hey I would have had to wait for it to dry. Not a very patient person.

I hoped the curtains etc catch your attention so you dont notice
. So far it's all hand painted, (the roof and walls are just normal house paint. Sample pots. but I will be airbrushing for the weathering. The other items are also there to distract you from looking too closely at the deficiencies.....method in my madness


Would I want everyone to be the same as me, the same level of competence, the same sense of humour, the same level of annoyance. God no I'd want to commit Hari Kiri.
People here have offered me advice on so many things, military details, film connections, collecting,scenery, plus all the standard model forum items,I want to see how others do it and add the ones I like. Some of the ideas have not been the best presented ones, does not stop them being good ideas. Vive la difference! This is a friendly forum considerate of all levels, very happy to be here. And best of all we have a laugh
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QUOTE (StuB @ 2 May 2013, 21:01) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>I have been volunteering on a Neolithic House building experimental project near Salisbury, model building at 12" to the foot.
Stu

As it's a house build, can you sneak a picture or two on here? Ever worked on an earthship???? Is it on private land? Bet they could hire it out for hand fests they have a lot of trouble finding nice venues
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OK, been building one of these

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Straw roof? Reeds?
Soil? Clay? Soil and straw? White washed with lime?
There seems to be a second wall? Do they insulate it with straw? warm in winter cool in summer? wheres the hole for the smoke?
Come on dish out the dirt............
They need better costumes than that to look convincing. Is there a link regards this?
Looks cool
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Have to say that the Neolithic house looks similar to the smaller Iron Age houses at Butser to me. I suppose that if a design works well enough, then it might as well be continued.
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Done some weathering. Dropped it on the layout. (it's sat on some tracks....) Moved a piece of scenery around to give it a backdrop.
Although I did touch up the scenic back ground a little (just remove obvious issues) I didn't touch the house. You can see the moulding faults easily enough.


back view


side, owner been touching up the paint work



front and other side, Looks ok from this distance
can't see the joins



side inc chimneys - view from neighbours? even at this distance the mould marks on the windows can be seen if you don't touch up the picture


granddad going home after a short holiday, THe copydex glue on the roff is still drying
the green doors are weathered

I might use it at the back but it's not one I'd get excited about. Still it shows what I should go do to the resin ones. Curtains look nice

Would I weather my resin ones....shudders....I do add copydex and some scenic greenery , stuff that can be rubbed off easily. Ivy or moss as per this ones roof.
But if this is a poor kit? We should do a group build with a good building
I should go touch it up now, it actually looks nice even on the appalling cork painted base. I'll find it a spot eventually.....And to be honest when you compare it to the early Hornby skaledale it's not too bad. love and attention. In fact considering I slapped it together it's not too bad...Theres a dapol pub somewhere in the room......saw when I went after the house. Now that would be good fun
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I spent longer on this and the last post, and the photography and dressing than on the poor little model
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