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Hello all

I have decided to replace my quite boring current test track with a new, larger and fully scenic one so it will make my days more interesting.

I'm also doing this as I also need to fix a frustrating problem - I am often in the middle of programming when clients (like you) drop in for help with a loco, and right now when you do that, I have to stop what I'm doing, losing lots of work as I have to take the loco being programmed off the track while I help them.

Its no big deal with simple DCC settings, but a real frustration when its the middle of a sound programming task or during sound file creation!

But... I always like to do my best to help straight away, so the answer is to fix the problem which isn't you and I but the test track!

So... the new track will have several sidings that I can use separately when needed, each with a rotary switch that will let me connect it to DCC or one of up to six different computer linked programming interfaces I need to use from time to time.

The challenge: (Hope its OK Doug)
I've made the new board and actually do have a track plan already but thought it'd be nice to see what YOU as MRF members came up with.

No real limitations, and the "size and specs" are all on the attached drawing.

The Scale:
It'll be for HO and OO scale ONLY with a small exception -a single line for EM which is still 4mm scale OO but at a more correct 18.2mm gauge (thats all in the Notes on the PDF attached).

No O or N scale or P4 or G this time I'm afraid - these will all be done on a separated track at my workbench in future (no disrespect to those other scales & Gauges - its just that 98% of the work IS in the scale I'll build it in!

Rules:
All in the attached except the timing.

Time Limit:
A good comp is a quick comp, so Friday 24th October is the end day - I'll decode over that weekend who wins and will post the prizes on the Monday as long as they included an address with their entry!

Entries:
by email to [email protected] please. Email to include any description you like and attachments are fine.

Please make them in any format you like by the way - I can open most file types no problem. DO include your address and contact details of course.

Perfect presentation is nice but it isn't all thats important - clever design and a realistic or effective scenic potential plus any added detail if you can manage it (like signalling) is the key.

Don't worry about any control or wiring related issues - if it can be built, I can wire it no problem.

I am equally happy to receive hand drawn entries that have been scanned or computer generated ones!

Prizes:

This is for fun more than anything but I will add some nice prizes to say "thank you" to entrants!

I will give THREE prizes - one first and Two runners up. If there are lots of entries, I may add more!

For the winner:
A 6 pack of Flickerfree valued at $A99 OR an ESU decoder tester and a set of superb fine wire strippers for DCC installs. (winner can choose)

For the two runners up:
A pair of the same top quality wire strippers PLUS some of the best solder ever made for fine wiring (my own Sapphire 179) PLUS 2 packs of Prototype White LEDs for loco lighting etc. OR a Pack each of MASTERswich V2 and MASTERswitch PLUS (Runners up can choose)

Announcement and display:
I will post all - especially the winning entries on THIS thread as attachments so you can see the results!

Follow-up:
I will post images as I construct it. This may take some time but I really wantit to be something special, so it may include some useful modelling techniques and I'll try to "step by step" those as I go!

Post decision discussion:
I will be happy to discuss anything related to the implementation of the plan in a positive way positive but my reason for a decision re winners won't of course be a subject for debate.... it IS a fun competion after all!

Finally for now:
Ask any questions you like before entering but please if possible do it here on list! If you want to post your plan here thats OK too, but if you'd prefer to keep it secret thats OK of course...

Kind regards

Richard
 

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QUOTE (john woodall @ 16 Oct 2008, 17:19) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>Is the closing date Friday Perth time or uk time?

***Hi John

To be fair globally, I'll not actually start looking at them to make a decision until Sat PM Perth time (We are at GMT/UK time +8). That way, there's a little flexibility to cover every possible timezone.

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QUOTE (zmil @ 17 Oct 2008, 14:21) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>Hi Richard
I have been playing around with the design using Anyrail
Is it OK to put in 1 double slip?

Regards Zmil

***Any track formation you want is fine - go for it!

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Well the first couple of entries are in, but I'd llove to see a few more as the week progresses....

If you haven't already started, have a go - as I said in my initial post, its the design and thought that goes into it thats important not the beauty of the presentation, so whether you use a computer programme or a pencil to draw it out, the odds of winning are exactly the same!

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Hi All

You could just buy the 6 pack of Flicker free lighting units
and say you won them in the competition
(for the benefit of the financial controller)

seriously though It would be very nice to have a setup like Richard is planning for his test track!

Regards Zmil
 

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QUOTE (Martin71 @ 19 Oct 2008, 18:29) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>How about offering the scale Ripple Head you have....and I will design and build it for you!

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***Ummm.... Nope!

I'd drive you insane as when it come to building layouts, I don't play well with others - I like things done my way!

Anyway....

If I saved the cost of building Ribblehead once more in time and materials I could afford to fly Iain Rice back to stay with me again and build it together
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BTW Ribblehead will soon be available as a kit if you are really keen on it... full, half and 14 size... Not cheap and still a lot of work to create the finished result.... But worth the effort.

Why don't you enter anyway, Martin


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Love to Richard

as you know long hours 7 days a week and other small projects just dont have the time.

Didnt think I posted that......

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QUOTE (Richard Johnson @ 19 Oct 2008, 17:02) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>***Ummm.... Nope!

BTW Ribblehead will soon be available as a kit if you are really keen on it... full, half and 14 size... Not cheap and still a lot of work to create the finished result.... But worth the effort.

Hi Richard,

By half size do you mean suitable for N Scale or just half of the length of yours ??


Cheers,

Trevor.
 

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QUOTE (Expat @ 20 Oct 2008, 20:20) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>Hi Richard,

By half size do you mean suitable for N Scale or just half of the length of yours ??


Cheers,

Trevor.

Nope... Sorry Trevor... Never in N! Creating the masters for that viaduct in one scale is more than enough for one lifetime :).

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QUOTE (Lancashire Fusilier @ 29 Oct 2008, 08:49) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>Well, what's the verdict then.....

***I'm close to a decision - the fact is that none will work for me as presented, so I'm going over them and considering a decision based on the "elements" as presented - it complicates it as I want to explain why I chose what I did!!!

So far the cut is to the final 2

new decision date this Friday....

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***Decision time. It took much longer than I thought to make this decision!

Basically, no single entry is 100% buildable "as is" as each has an aspect that won't work well for a test track... However each also had at least one element I really like, so that sort of balanced things!

(I didn't really expect the perfect "build it as drawn" answer, just some interesting entries!)

* The hardest thing for all was the narrow neck area - however thats where two computer monitors will go so I had no choice!

* Also hard was the combining of EM and OO in a single narrow strip "layout". Most used gradients and overpass, one used a dual gauge diamond which is actually no problem to build.... I may do both in the end and make it interesting!

* One had great detail as to structure suggestions, one had a full signalling diagramme....

* Two thought about the end of the board and disguising at least one ends "exit point" nicely.....

* One included some 009 - with one of my favourite industries... lime kilns! Hmmm.... I hadn't intended it on this test track, it would give me usable 9mmm gauge track though!

* Two used computer generated drawings which were nice to review, others were hand drawn, but that made no difference to my decision at all as effort and design were more important to me!

ALL were well thought out!

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I will now combine aspects of each plan and create the final design.

SO... for now, what did I decide?

I have thought a lot about it and as no ONE plan is totally what I want, I have decided to award prizes differently.

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I will take and use aspects of FOUR entries, and award FOUR equivalent first prizes, and NO runners up! So... each of the 4 will receive a first prize... A $99 value six pack of DCCconcepts "Flickerfree"

The winners are... (in alphabetical order)

Expat
Lancashire Fusilier
UPNick
Zmil

Congratulations and thank you for entering!

I'll pack up your prizes next week and send off to Dubai, UK and (thankfully for post cost
) Perth Local!

kind regards

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Hi All

No one is more surprised than I am

I am truly very very happy to be selected in the winners list , I have been speechless (unable to type also) all afternoon. Now that I have come down from the ceiling I can thank Richard for a great competition and I will put my prize to good use
I can only fund my hobby with what I sell , so my budget is limited , in fact sometimes I have had to sell one of my favourite Lok's to pay a bill.
Times are tough at the moment.

Thankyou once again Richard

Regards Zmil
 
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