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A matter of scale.... OO/HO

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Just wondering if there are any trains/locomotives available in both OO and HO?

I understand the difference between them and don't really care which one is 'better' as it were. But curious if anyone sells the same model in both? Being UK based and already owning OO models, it is the obvious choice. Although I think the engineer in me does feel a little irked as the mismatch of gauge and scale with OO. But HO seems to be rare here to buy without importing and paying high shipping and fees.

On the flip side of this thought process. Are there any non UK trains easily available in OO? I quite like some of the US classic 4-4-0 Steam locos and some of their modern diesel electrics. But mismatching scales on a layout or even a display grates at me a little.... :D

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... Although I think the engineer in me does feel a little irked as the mismatch of gauge and scale with OO...
You might be even more irked when you perceive the 'variscale' that is the accepted norm for HO steam models.

OO was born out of the necessity to accommodate commercial mechanism parts within the limitations imposed by the UK loading gauge and UK steam locomotive design, most critically the close fitting splashers over driving wheels and the outside cylinders and rods and other components in close proximity to these. The compromise is a constant larger scale, excepting the track gauge.

HO shares the problem of accommodation of the same commercial mechanism parts on steam locos. Even with a larger loading gauge, the larger locos in particular are difficult to produce as working models able to negotiate small radius model railway curves, and the accepted compromise is to move toward 4mm/ft (OO scale) for width around the mechanism. Lima attempted an LMS Crab, and Rivarossi an LMS Royal Scot, and effect is noticeable, as in ugly.

Occasional Japanese and Korean HO brass productions as mentioned above are typically true scale, and the outside cylinder types require scale minimum curve radii, in excess of 1m. Where this all leads if you are sufficiently irked is P4 - true 4mm scale - or P87 - true 3.5mm scale.
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I believe the intention was to increase the selection of components, but this is all being undertaken by volunteer effort; and I would imagine that the present epidemic has only added to the inevitable obstacles to progress.
However, TTBOMK C&L are still trading and offering P4 track product.

Meanwhile the Exactoscale operation (link post 12 above) offers the somewhat limited range you refer to, as I understand it being run by volunteers? I freely confess to being out of touch since a friend long active in P4 died in 2018.
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