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QUOTE OK I may have more than 10 locomotives but I would never go out and buy a chip for them all. I may have a pool of chips which I can move around depending on which locos I want to have a DCC play with.

I know you won't Gary, it's simply too much *** to change decoders, and perhaps reprogram. Each loco has it's own little set of idiosyncrasies, requiring small changes. what you say is a popular misconception of non DCC users. Belive me your going to have a decoder for each loco (assuming you go DCC). BTW it's not a chip you get them with fish, it's a DECODER.
 

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Very intresting we keep on coming back to that old chestnut conformability. Personally I couldnt careless what Hornby do. I'm not intresting in DCC on the cheap. It going to intresting to see how many Elite and Select units will be avialble on Ebay and at Swap meets in the new year. An opportunity missed. Next time Hornby have agreat plan I hope they run their fruitcake idea past me first.

Woops I forgot I'm no longer a share holder.
 

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I presume you refering to me with the sniping. Thats a bit unfair since the point I was making BROTHERS is the specification on the Elite should have been a little sharper. I've made my point you may not agree, but thats what forums are all about.

I saw an Elite advertised at £98.00 it's hardly an expencive piece of kit. The select was going for £70 odd. It probably cheaper than the large H&M that Hornby peddle. As I said in a previous post I have a coffee maker that cost double that so I suppose you have to see this development in a relative light.

I'm 100% for the spread of DCC. Once the limitations of the select are realised maybe one or two might tempted to more expencive kit.

 

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Well an unexpected opportunity to air my view on Digitrax. First a bit of history and why I choose Digitrax.

I started with ZTC and following up on an advert and article in 1994 Railway Toddler I visited Robin Palmer in Safon Waldon and bought a 511, 30 odd decoders a transformer. I then returned to South Africa and started to install decoders in my N gauge stock. It was a battle, with little documentation, and there was not much on the internet either. My inital batch of decoders would just fit inside a Farish tender. I had a lovely railway room and a large N gauge layout, but no one I knew used DCC. I was something of a novelty, folks visited my layout, but I'm sure they thought me insane.

Things moved on, my business expanded at a rapid rate, it demanded a lot committment, there was little time for railways. Finally a house move resulted in me establishing a complex n gauge layout in new railway room. I went back to DC control for a while, as the problems with new smaller decoders just compounded my frustation. A failure of one batch of new decoders to store progaming details meant hours of modifications of Farish chassises were put on hold. it was a frustating time.

I then decided to change to 00 with the change of century to make things easier on the eye sight. Initally I has a simple loop around the room. I started using Hornby tender drives with my ZTC 511 and the decoders I had. I had the ZTC511 catch fire one night. I replaced a bridge recifier, but a few weeks later I had a repeat performance. Rather than return my 511 to a then defunct ZTC (before they were bought out) I looked around for a replacement DCC unit. I had long been attracted to a fast clock and this brought me into contact with the local Digitrax agent in South Africa. Lenz had an agent who charged according to your appearance, with the more affluient being charged more. The was no local agent for Easy DCC or NCE at the time, so the choice was Lenz or Digitrax. I chose Digitrax especially as the agent was only 10 mins drive from me, and for the first time I actually got a fair amount of support and advice.

Initally I bought the Chef set, a DCS100 and two DT100 radio hand controllers. I hated these, the function keys were difficult to get used to, so I continued to used my 511 for programming. Digitrax documentation was a bit overwelming at first, I heard that Lenz is similar. I now feel at easy with Digitrax documentation.
Things changed for me when Digitrax introduced the DT300 and then the DT400 trottle. Thats when I started to love my Digitrax system. The handset is easy to use for all features. It can control two loco's and recall upto another 24. Features all functions, you program with it in a choice of four modes, including 'on the main', and it's easy to use. I now have four of these trottles, and as I have a radio reciever UR91 it's great for walk round control. I sold my old DT100 trottles and bought a couple of UT4 trottles just for visitors, their simple, and they keep fingers off of critical functions. As my layout grew, I added a DB150 booster to power a reverse loop and a seperate power zone. Expansion was simple. Digitrax use Loconet for a control bus, this has been 100% reliable. in fact the only failure I've has was when UP3 (the unit you plug a trottle) into failed and this caused me to have to trouble shoot this failure, this took me 10 odd hours.

I feel at home with Digitrax it does what it's supposed to do. There's never been a software up grade for my DCS100 it's not necessary. With other systems frequent changes to software have necesitated changes to EMPOMs and upgrades, not with Digitrax they got it right first time. When I need to add to my system all the bit and pieces needed are available. Price of the unit was not one of my considerations. First and foremost the system must be able to handle what I want from it. I've seen Digitrax in action on some huge layouts, operation has been flawless. The handset concept is far more at home on the large layout rather than the central control unit. With the handset you can be there right at the centre of the action, perhaps shunting, organising a locoshed, or running a busy station. Loconet functions well and is seemless.

What system would I buy today, well living as I now do in the UK Lenz probably springs to the fore. I don't think it would be my system of choice. But I acknowledge that it's a good alternative, and they have an excellent agent in Mackays. Digitrax from my experience would be my system of choice. I'm fortunate for me cost isn't the issue, function is. As a second choice perhaps NCE or even Zimo. I'm firmly convinced that Handsets rather than control centres is the way to go with DCC.
 

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In side my Sunday paper this weekend was a mini Argos catalogue. I had a peek at the digital cameras on offer
and then thought AHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH as you, do wonder what train sets their offering kids this Christmas. Nothing folks, thats right zip. Some digital Scale Electric and that's it. True there will probably be something in the instore catalogue. Sign of the times ?

Whats the message from this. Kids don't get trainsets anymore, Adults do. Which segment of the market is the Hornby Select marketed at ?. By enlarge it's a suffocated Adult market.

BTW Neil I don't think you can go wrong with Digitrax, it's a mature developed system that can be expanded almost indefinately. Normally there's good support and it's well suited to larger layouts.

 
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