[neil_s_wood]

Doug, did you think there was enough room for a sound decoder to be installed in the tender? The reason I ask is that with the A3 the tender was full of detail under the coal which excluded this.

 

[neil_s_wood]

I may well buy one and give it a whirl as my old 9F has one of those dodgy old motors and hasn't converted to digital very well. I may be better of with a new one.

 

[neil_s_wood]

So, Doug was the gear already broken when you bought this loco or are Bachmann saying that because you ran this on DCC before running it in on dc that you were responsible for breaking it?

Also how does this compare to the previous Hornby version?

 

[neil_s_wood]

QUOTE So are they going to run in their DCC Onboard locos for one hour on DC before they ship them?

I would really like to see the answer to that.

 

[neil_s_wood]

Thanks for that Doug, there is certainly a bit of a difference. I may get one of these as my Clive of India doesn't work too well since being converted to DCC. It has the tender motor and either stutters as it takes of or bolts like a scalded cat.

 

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QUOTE (StewartR @ 12 Oct 2006, 12:10) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>As to the pictures of the old hornby and the new evening start,side by side for comparison,I would still rather have the Hornby,due to strong motor and mechanicals and also the fact that when I pick the old Horby one up the floor wont get littered with tiny detail parts that fall off,I bought the "master set" the otherday,before I have even got "Prince Paladin" out the VERY tight foam insert a part broke off,when finally out and being inspect a load more plastic bits fell off,and it comes with a bag of more even small plastic bits to add on aswell,namely the cylinder drains!!!!God I hate all this micro rubbish plastic detail!!
Funny you should mention it but there was discussion on this very issue not long back.

The detail is good as long as it's securely fastened on to the loco.

Unfortunately it often isn't.

I don't really bother with all the extra plastic detail as a lot of it falls off. I think the idea is to only apply it if you intend to use the model for static display. When the loco turns to go round small radius curves much of the extra detail is forced off as the wheels articultate to a degree a real loco couldn't. Some manufacturers actually tell you this in the instructions.

 

[neil_s_wood]

QUOTE (dbclass50 @ 12 Oct 2006, 16:48) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>This is probably the very first time I have ever seen anyone complain about fine detailing ! Most people seem to complain about it missing (even if you cannot see it when running)>

regards
Brian
I was a bit surprised too.

Guess you can't please everyone.

 

[neil_s_wood]

QUOTE (Doug @ 12 Oct 2006, 18:52) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>I like the detail, but alas I store my locos back in their boxes when not in use and the little fiddly bits end up coming off quite often.

Until I have dust free storage fiddle yards set up, I just have to put up with this.

I imagine most people have the same problem. Detail is welcome, but when man-handling the locos and putting them away in tight foam packaging, it is a bit of a pain.
So we're pretty much all agreed then....