[dwb]

>Why manufacturers cannot put them on the plug that goes into the DCC socket when a decoder is not fitted beats me - it would automatically remove them when a decoder is fitted. Or is that too simple?

It may be that they don't do the job adequately when attached to the socket as you suggest. RF suppression has a lot of "black magic" about it

David

 

[Dennis David]

So after you remove all this crap when you install your decoder does this mean that Benny Hill is now all screwed up?

 

[Brian Considine]

QUOTE (John Webb @ 10 Aug 2006, 11:30) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>Why manufacturers cannot put them on the plug that goes into the DCC socket when a decoder is not fitted beats me - it would automatically remove them when a decoder is fitted. Or is that too simple?
Regards,
John Webb

Hi John,

The chokes & caps have to be as close as possible to the source of interferance (in this case the comm/brushes) to work effectivly.

best reagards
Brian

 

[Brian Considine]

QUOTE (Dennis David @ 10 Aug 2006, 19:00) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>So after you remove all this crap when you install your decoder does this mean that Benny Hill is now all screwed up?

Hi Dennis,

No, the decoders have their own built in supression.

BTW - from all accounts Benny Hill was screwed up anyway !

best regards
Brian

 

[alibuchan]

Whats Benny Hill?

Im so confused!!

Alistair

 

[dwb]

>Whats Benny Hill Im so confused!!
I believe that Benny Hill was very popular in the US but this allusion escapes me too.

David

 

[Dennis David]

It was a show from England that for a time represented the other end of British TV to Masterpiece Theater to us dumb Yanks.

But basically what a world we have that revolves around TV and anything that may interfere with it.

 

[Doug]

Here we have some photos to compare the new Bachmann 9F to the older tender triven Hornby 9F. The Bachmann is the black loco and the Hornby is the green one. Thanks to dwb for taking the photos of the Hornby 9F.

 

[neil_s_wood]

Thanks for that Doug, there is certainly a bit of a difference. I may get one of these as my Clive of India doesn't work too well since being converted to DCC. It has the tender motor and either stutters as it takes of or bolts like a scalded cat.

 

[hoonsou]

Regarding removing the cap's. I've not taken them out of my 9F, and find it runs very nicely with a Lenz 100. Maybe it does depend on what control system you use.

 

[Ozzie21]

Well no it doesn't and it is a good idea to remove them, especially the ones across the motor. There are three caps on 9F, two across the motor and one on the PCB along with the two chokes. If you remove the two chokes remember to solder a pair of jumper wires in their place.

Ozzie21

QUOTE (hoonsou @ 17 Aug 2006, 09:49) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>Regarding removing the cap's. I've not taken them out of my 9F, and find it runs very nicely with a Lenz 100. Maybe it does depend on what control system you use.

 

[Jeorge]

I'm Currnetly saving up for my 9F Should take me about hmmm, 20 weeks,

 

[alibuchan]

jeorge

I would go down to your model shop and reserve 1. As mine local shop has 1 left out of a batch of 24 locos!

I was lucky to get the last model of 92192, 5 days after they arrived in the shop.

Alistair

 

[Thunder]

It would be interesting to see what of the three new 9Fs is the fastest seller? and how many units have been purchased since its release?

 

[Ozzie21]

Well here in Oz they are in very short supply. I got one out of the three I ordered, 92192. Seems like the importer for Bachmann here couldn't get enough so they went on a first come first got basis. It's the same with Hornby on some items like the Devon Belle train pack. I ordered both the train and coach pack at the same time and recieved the same but my cousin who ordered the train pack at the same time didn't order the coach pack till a couple of weeks later and he missed out. Mind you he got his "Evening Star" So I would recommend that you order early to avoid missing out. At least it's not like the yank stuff where it's all limited runs for the most part and you miss out as lot.

Ozzie21

QUOTE (Thunder @ 19 Aug 2006, 20:46) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>It would be interesting to see what of the three new 9Fs is the fastest seller? and how many units have been purchased since its release?

 

[Thunder]

The 2 9Fs in the photos make interesting viewing, there are several differences, but the one that hit me straight in the eye was the difference in the size of the cylinders on the Hornby loco to the Bachman, and they appear to be sitting at different angles?

 

[John Webb]

Comparison with photos of the actual locos (in "Riddles and the 9Fs" by Colonel H C B Rogers, for example) suggests that the older Hornby model's cylinders are inaccurate in both size and inclination, and that the Bachmann is much better in both respects.
Regards,
John Webb

 

[william]

Hi I'm new to the forum but I hope someone can help me
I've just picked a 9F and it run's very well once I've ran it
in I'll be fitting a LENZ chip if I can find one I may try a
Soundtraxx chip it sounds like a good idea anyway I would
to turn my 9F into a TYNE DOCK loco but I'm nut sure what
changes it needs apart from the Westinghouse pumps any
help would be welcome

 

[william]

AS YOU CAN SEE I NEED NOT USE SPELL CHECK BEFORE I ASKED FOR HELP
I'LL DO BETTER NEXT TIME
WILLIAM

 

[silver760]

As to the pictures of the old hornby and the new evening start,side by side for comparison,I would still rather have the Hornby,due to strong motor and mechanicals and also the fact that when I pick the old Horby one up the floor wont get littered with tiny detail parts that fall off,I bought the "master set" the otherday,before I have even got "Prince Paladin" out the VERY tight foam insert a part broke off,when finally out and being inspect a load more plastic bits fell off,and it comes with a bag of more even small plastic bits to add on aswell,namely the cylinder drains!!!!God I hate all this micro rubbish plastic detail!!