Poor logic, I buy a loco DCC ready with a decoder, I have to remove it, fit my own decoder, then sell on the Bachmann or Hornby badged Lenz decoder on for peanuts...........no way.
I want a quality decoder with 4 digit addressing, and a full range of CV's. What chance then for Bachmann loco's with sound. ? "great for trainsets but not for me in this format"
Yes Bachmann have improved there products, but were talking about a new range of products here.
As I said IMHO it's not the product I want, I would prefer to buy my own decoder and do my own thing.
Ryan this applies to you as well, even if your learning DCC, which is really simple.
I'm also dismayed by talk that Hornby's DCC system will not support 4 Digit addressing or a full range of DCC functions.
The message to both manufactures is either do DCC properly or leave to the specialists in the field. Non standard DCC (IE does not fully conform to NMRA standards- such as they are) is condeming the purchasers to a tied arrangement, buy my loco's, buy my system. It sounds like a really poor decision, and ranks along side live steam.
We could be watching a wonderful opportunity missed by poor management decisions, and lack of long term vision, for short term gain.
I had in mind to buy a Hornby Elite just for my study shunting plank, but now I've decided it will be a Digitrax Zephur, just a few pennies more, but more verstile, more amps, and fitting in nicely with my existing Digitrax equipment. Proven, and NMRA compliant.