[dcroz]

Bachmann press release:

"Visitors to the National Railway Museum (NRM) this festive season will be in with a chance of getting their hands on one of the first 500 working models of a historic locomotive owned by the museum the perfect modellers gift. Bachmann Europe Plc, who have been making model railways since 1952, have produced a 00 gauge model of the Deltic for the NRM and it is hoped the colourful locomotive will be the first of a series of limited edition models based on well-known engines from the national collection.

The 3,300hp diesel Prototype Deltic was built in 1955, and was affectionately known as the cats whiskers and the ice cream cart due to its characteristic cream stripes, French blue livery, and prominent central headlamp. It was the most powerful diesel locomotive in the world when it was built and its success rang the death knell for steam, which up until that time dominated Britains railways. Subsequent to the initial run English Electric supplied 22 production Deltic locomotives for the East Coast Main Line, heralding a new era for rail travel.

An ideal gift for model railway fans, the Special Limited Edition commemorative set is due to hit the shelves in December just in time for Christmas. However, rail enthusiasts who want to make doubly sure they are one of the proud owners of the exclusive first 500, or friends and family who want to ensure the perfect gift for their model-mad loved ones, will be able to reserve their special purchase in advance.

Graham Hubbard, Managing Director of Bachmann Europe Plc said: This project proved challenging. The works drawings no longer existed so we had to use laser scanning equipment for the first time. A special gantry also had to be erected at Shildon to enable the scanner, provided by a specialist contractor, to pass over the whole length of the locomotive but the results proved well worth it. Each sale will support the NRM in its vital work in preserving Britains railway heritage, and providing public access to the national collections.

Andrew Scott, Director of the NRM said: The prototype Deltic locomotive has always been a popular exhibit in our museums and through our joint project with Bachmann, we are now able to provide for the first time a top quality model of this unique and very striking locomotive. We are delighted with the end product and thank Bachmann Europe for bringing it to fruition. Were very much looking forward to seeing new limited edition models in the years to come.

Modellers who do not manage to get hold of this exclusive first edition model need not be too downhearted. Following the first 500 Special Limited Edition commemorative sets available from December 2007, there will be a further 2500 Limited Edition standard models following in January 2008.

BE 2007-53
25 October 2007

Link to larger version of the photo above.

 

[7113]

I suspect this will sell well - always did like this livery application. I wonder how many will actually be run?

Regards

 

[darobi]

Does this also mean the other "Deltics" have been upgraded!!

Looks very nice though.

 

[7113]

Just noticed this (sad person that I am) but it appears that the model has been involved in a shunting incident. Supersize the photo and look at the far buffer head!

Regards

 

[Gary]

Those limited numbers are crazy!

They should be doing 10000 as a minimum.

Why make this a limited edition?

It should be on general release with reruns done every so often.

The Bachmann policy of never duplicating a model is bonkers for a one off loco like this that will have guaranteed sales year in and year out.

Now I have to join the rush mad panic to pre-order one!

Happy modelling
Gary

PS great subject and a fantastic initiative from Bachmann!

More like this please! Its a pity the NRM don't have a Blue Pullman...

 

[alastairq]

I'd love one....but no way could such obvious expence be justified on 'daddy's toys' in my family.

now, if someone wants to flog a dapol unbuilt vesion?

(how accurate is the Dapol version?]

 

[Jennings]

First things first ... How much is this gonna cost? Knowing the NRMs prices its probably going to be VERY expensive ...

 

[Doug]

Please note that this model will be only available from the National Railway Museum. It goes on sale in December in a limited edition presentation box and from January in a standard box.

It will not be available through the normal Bachmann retail outlets and has been commissioned by the National Railway Museum to raise much needed funds.

For further information please contact the National Railway Museum shop at York

National Railway Museum, Leeman Road, York, YO26 4XJ, UK
telephone: 08448 153139
fax: 01904 611112
email: [email protected]

 

[neil_s_wood]

QUOTE Graham Hubbard, Managing Director of Bachmann Europe Plc said: This project proved challenging. The works drawings no longer existed so we had to use laser scanning equipment for the first time. A special gantry also had to be erected at Shildon to enable the scanner, provided by a specialist contractor, to pass over the whole length of the locomotive but the results proved well worth it. Each sale will support the NRM in its vital work in preserving Britains railway heritage, and providing public access to the national collections

So there's no excuse for it not being a perfect model then.

Nice livery. I will probably go for the DCC sound one though.

 

[Gary]

What strikes me as bonkers is that Bachmann (and Hornby come to that) can't see any commercial viability in such models and resort to relying on commssions before producing them. Bachmann retailers will be furious that this model is not a general release as it could have been a steady cash cow for them for many years. Like the Flying Scotsman but on a smaller scale.

It does seem that manufacturers have their eye on the here and now and not future earnings. I do wonder though if this is a penalty that we all pay due to the likes of eBay making it very simple to dispose of model railway stuff secondhand and maybe there is no longer such a thing as cash cow models as a result.

In saying this well done to the NRM for commissioning this model.

Would anybody trying to contact the NRM today to place an order please wait until after I have made contact!

Happy modelling
Gary

 

[mifsit]

Are all 3000 models (the initial 500 in a special box + 2500 normal boxed) only going to be available from the NRM? Though if it is a good seller perhaps we'll see more like Heljans falcon in the years to come. LMS 10000 - 10001 anyone?

Looks like its going to be another very expensive Christmas too what with the nov / dec new releases and ltd eds all coming out at the same time

 

[Gary]

Apparently the NRM have been overwhelmed with callers and at this time are simply taking names and telephone numbers and arranging call backs.

The call back times currently extend well into next week!

Now bearing in mind that this news really is 100% internet only right now and has not yet made it into the paper based magazines this definitely prooves the power of the internet to both Bachmann and Hornby!!!

And the news hasn't even yet appeared on the daddy of them all, Pat Hammonds MRE mag!

Whats going to happen when it does!

Happy modelling
Gary

PS prices:-

First editions of 500 £140 + £5 shipping

Second run of 2500 £95 + £5 shipping

 

[darobi]

do we know what spec yet. DCC ready. lights etc etc.

I really do wish that they all sit down and start planning what they are doing between themselves!! The cost of all these models is going to mean some are sitting on shelves for a while this Xmas

How many Ltd editions and must have Loco's are coming out in the next 2 months or so!!

Shanks Sound
Stobart Rail
NRM Deltic
Falcon x3
About 20 Ltd editions

As Gary has said a lot of shops will be missing out on sales this last quarter. This hobby can become very frustrating at times

I wonder what Ebay price they will go for

 

[Gary]

Very true on the limited editions. They are sold by a very limited number of outlets and the large number of limited edition releases this Xmas, more than I can remember, do mean that money will be in the hands of the few not spread among the many. Standard bread and butter models offered by bread and butter stockists will be left on the shelf so make sure you put some money aside for the January sales!

Why do all the goodies every year appear only at Xmas?

Or in January if they don't make it and trumpeted and counted as the first of the new releases for the follow up year!

Absolutely crazy.

There has to be a better way of planning this by the manufacturers.

Hornby state time and time again to their shareholders that they are making great strides in improving the balance of their sales between first half and second half of each year. Bah humbug I say!

The fact is modellers only spend in the second half and this is never going to change so why should Hornby and Bachmann change?

Happy modelling
Gary

PS maybe this should be a seperate topic not to detract from the first class Deltic prototype. Can you believe that rivet counters are already rivet counting elesewhere?

Not bothered as they will not be running it. I am!

 

[Doug]

QUOTE (Gary @ 26 Oct 2007, 09:25) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>...
Would anybody trying to contact the NRM today to place an order please wait until after I have made contact!

...

Gary, please get me one too. I'll send funds over as soon as required.

 

[Doug]

Just a thought, If the NRM can do this, perhaps as a nice little way of generating funds, what other locos in railway museums or preserved railways would make good limited edition models.

What does it take to do this? Good relations with the manufacturer, lots of money upfront, good idea for a model...?

 

[Brian Considine]

QUOTE (Doug @ 26 Oct 2007, 14:50) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>What does it take to do this?

About £150,000 at a guess !

 

[34C]

QUOTE (Doug @ 26 Oct 2007, 14:50) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>Just a thought, If the NRM can do this, perhaps as a nice little way of generating funds, what other locos in railway museums or preserved railways would make good limited edition models.
While ordering mine (just one of the 2,500 ordinary January availability units) I thought it worth mentioning that I am 'up for' a great many further items in the national collection. In no particular order: the royal train coaches (think of the job Hornby could do on those with their 'teak' simulation) the ROD, J69, J17, Stirling single, Ivatt Atlantics...

 

[Hugh Williams]

Hmmm, there is not much of an argument against producing 'Tommy'/E76020/'Electra', as these are all NRM related locos, so too is there an EMU, pre-war variety. Taking the point further, the Heritage Railways, which have some of NRM locos on them should get in on the 'game', as they must need funds and could (probably) do assist in the model designs. Perhaps, then we could see a variation on models from the Flying Scotsman/Duchesses/Britannia range. I note, not that it could be missed, that the Bachmann crew are doing their best for the redoubtable 'BR Standards', but that must be ending soon, only the smaller Tanks, the 77xxx and 78xxx moguls to do, then that finishes this list off. I would be surprised, even gratified, if they did a Clan (72xxx)/Duke of Gloucester, 71000. Mind you, with the Duke doing the rounds, it must be something of an opportunity, or reason, for producing her. If they can produce one offs like the Deltic, then maybe the Duke......

A GWR fan must be applying the same line of thinking (don't call it logic) for a City of Truro, and the related 4-4-0 types found in the Gods Wonderful railway Land.

It does surprise me that whilst the 'Deltic' is at the NRM and is well known amongst the Enthusiasts and Railway historians, I doubt if the general trainset buyer would have any more knowledge/interest in the loco than the much discussed Blue Pullmans and the like

If nothing else the production of the original Deltic has produced that usual amount of speculation, wishes etc.....

Cheers,

Hugh

 

[bangerblueed]

Do I take it then that this has probably already sold out (first 500) to people reserving them or are they going to insist that you have to visit the NRM to get one ?