Banded Iron Rail

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regme

Discussion Starter · 5 mo ago

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Hi

After lots of questions, listening to advise on this forum, the build has finally commenced, my layout is going to be based on an iron ore mine with a train load out and car dumper (hopefully operational) plus a few additional infrastructure. I would like a conveyor to connect it all up, but there might not be enough room. The layout may change once I start putting it down, it seems to look different in real life then on the screen.

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So far I have the frame work up. It's modular in construction, just in case I have to move it. Ended up using cabinet connectors to connect the modules together.

Just have the plywood top, XPS foam base and backdrop to go

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regme

Discussion Starter · #2 · 5 mo ago

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Hi

Been working on the backdrop side of things, was hoping to have it finished for the weekend but the nail gun packed itself in.

These are the sides, just have to the middle and I can start on the XPS foam base. The backboard is 3mm MDF, it's 400mm high plus I raised it another 25mm of the base since the XPS foam is 50mm thick. The corners have a 400mm radius, I wanted 300mm but it just felt too tight.

I try to get a tighter radius by kerfing the MDF and it looked promising until that finally little bit before the MDF shat itself.

Cheers

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PAPPA.B

· #3 · 5 mo ago

Nice woodwork 👍

regme

Discussion Starter · #4 · 5 mo ago

Thanks, plenty of mistakes though.

Mistake #0001 - Always pick your own timber.
Mistake #0002 - When you buy a square make sure it's square.

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PAPPA.B

· #5 · 5 mo ago

regme said:
Mistake #0001 - Always pick your own timber.

yeah especially how much it's gone up in price

and someone picking it for you won't be as fussy .

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Graham Plowman

· #6 · 4 mo ago

regme said:
Thanks, plenty of mistakes though.

Mistake #0001 - Always pick your own timber.
Mistake #0002 - When you buy a square make sure it's square.

Yep, going through that right now with my O Gauge layout boards: Salcombe progress update

Went to Bunnings thinking I would pay $46 per 4x8 sheet of 12mm ply. Every sheet was warped at rates that Captain Kirk would be proud of.
I ended up purchasing 'structural ply' at $71 per sheet. A lot more expensive, but a much better product.

Also agree on the square: cheap knock-offs from Asia are usually not square. Get a German or Swiss product. Make sure it hasn't been dropped!

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regme

Discussion Starter · #7 · 4 mo ago

Ah Bunnings, I managed to find another supplier for plywood and timber that had a better finish with prices comparable if not better than Bunnings. The best saving I got was $27 for a sheet of 3mm plywood, while Bunnings had it for $42.

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regme

Discussion Starter · #8 · 4 mo ago

Hi

Finally finished the base board and backdrop, the backdrop has been primed with British Paints Prep 4 in 1 (water based)

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regme

Discussion Starter · #9 · 4 mo ago

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Hi

While gluing down the XPS foam, cut up some cork road bed using a mat cutter, set the width and just remember to rotate the sheet of cork every second cut.

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regme

Discussion Starter · #10 · 4 mo ago

Hi

Finally finished the baseboard, now to transfer the layout and starting laying track

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regme

Discussion Starter · #11 · 3 mo ago

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Hi

Have finally transferred the layout from the computer to the baseboard and the first of the roadbed is going down

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regme

Discussion Starter · #12 · 3 mo ago

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So this is the train load out area, it sits 100mm higher than the rest of the layout. I'm going to build the TLO on a 10mm piece of acrylic, so I'll have a 90mm for the track going under it.

As I'm building on foam, I also want to be able to move the TLO to build it away from the layout.

What would be the best way to support it, I'm not sure if I can build the supports directly on the foam or cut through the foam and support it from the wooden frame underneath? I'm not sure if the foam would be able to support the weight over time.

The pieces of wood are just to get an idea of the height.

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regme

Discussion Starter · #13 · 3 mo ago

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From the previous post I ended up cutting through the foam and fastening the wooden supports to the baseboard.

The layout has progressed a bit, more cork roadbed and started to put in the grades..

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regme

Discussion Starter · #14 · 2 mo ago

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Hi

Have a construction problem, making a basement structure for a car dumper, that will be attached to the underside of an acrylic sheet (red 10mm thick), would like it to be removable, but I'm not sure that will be an option. The basement was going to be made from 3mm acrylic.

The 10mm acrylic sheet sits on a 50mm foam base board.

Any ideas would be appreciated on either making it removable or permanent.

Cheers

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Norman Byrne

· #15 · 2 mo ago

Hi,
Take it the 10mm (red) acrylic sheet, is the removable one from your previous posts. And the associated basement box sub-structure will sit in the 50mm depth of foam.
Suppose the first question is does / why does it need to be removable ?
Also on the CAD image what / why are the two areas cut out of the bottom of the basement ?
Would the basement be cut through the full 50mm depth of the foam ?
Cheers for now, Norm

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regme

Discussion Starter · #16 · 2 mo ago

Hi Norm

Well the reason for it to be removable is that I would like to build at a table rather than on the layout, also if I have to move the module I can remove the structures to make it easier, although it's not a deal breaker if it was permanent.

The two holes at the bottom is where the ore will flow out, to a container at this stage but hopefully a conveyor system in the long run. Hence another reason to make it removable for maintenance, if ore gets trapped in the rollers.

The basement will just make it though the 50mm foam.

It has been suggested to make it a sliding drawing type system, but I tried a few variations on cutting out the baseboard, but didn't seem to work.

From your questions, I think it will be permanent, there is no way around it.

Might have to build it out of 3mm card as a prototype just ti see how it will go, maybe I'm just over engineering the possible problems.

Cheers

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Norman Byrne

· #17 · 2 mo ago

Hi again,
Think it will be quite a feature of the completed layout, along with the other working items / features.
Exactly how it’s best / realistically achieved, would say has yet to be best determined. But think your proposed card “mock up” is a good call.
In terms of it being removable for maintenance / transportation understand.
The “drawer” arrangement does sound like a good approach, if workable.
Also perhaps some “lift out” floor / internal sections, if it ends up being a fixed basement, located in some suitably strategic positions for maintenance / cleaning too perhaps. Or even a n access door from under the baseboard to “hoover” out debris from ?
Not sure if you have seen Mario and Bices Layout thread on here - Consolidated Nickel Miners - some Stunning / Amazing Modelling; might provide some food for thought ideas maybe ?
Good luck developing some options, look forward to seeing your progress.
Cheers for now Norm

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regme

Discussion Starter · #18 · 26 d ago

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Hi
Well, I have progressed the cork road bed install have about 90% done, now to start laying some track, then I can finish off the TLO area.

With the cork roadbed do you fill in the gaps under where the points would go, I was going to grind up some cork and mix it with PVC to do the job, or just a multipurpose filter.

Cheers

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kiwionrails

· #19 · 26 d ago

Looking good!

regme said:
With the cork roadbed do you fill in the gaps under where the points would go, I was going to grind up some cork and mix it with PVC to do the job, or just a multipurpose filter.

Honestly is optional - the area will be filled with ballast if not by cork/similar.

Regards,

Cameron.

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Norman Byrne

· #20 · 25 d ago

Hi again,
Looks like lots of good progress. The start of track laying will be a major milestone for sure too.
Have you had any further thoughts / decisions on your “basement” conundrum btw ?
Good luck with the track laying .... look forward to next pics.
Cheers for now, Norm

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