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QUOTE (simonj @ 9 Sep 2007, 20:10) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>I've got a few Fleischmann bogie container wagons which I was never 100% happy with as the containers are poorly held in place by big pegs and never seem to seat firmly(http://www.fleischmann.de/images/products/big/8252.jpg). On this model (http://www.fleischmann.de/images/products/big/8250.jpg) the roof of the longer white container is slightly warped so it leaves a gap at one end when in place ruining the look). The other problem is that when you run the wagon with the container, this row of big pegs is still visible and looks unrealistic.

Yesterday I bought a minitrix version(from the Alpine set) and was surprised how good it was. The chassis is die cast so it doesn't flex and the containers are weighted and have very tiny pips which locate into the diecast chassis and doesn't leave an unrealistic gap as found with the fleischmann versions.
Hello simonj,

Do you mean one of this type?

I have to agree they're absolutely superb, and a bargain at half the cost of the Fleischmann ones you mentioned which are quite a few years old I understand. Having bought about half of the models in the Alpine set (Minitrix 15645) I can't recommend them enough - close-coupling, value for money, well packed with a protective plastic sheet, crisply printed details, metal wagon bodies etc.


The Habbins sliding wall vans are brilliant and the one for the FS is almost unlabelled and perfect for modifying with decals etc. and with 3 ÖBB wagons and 4 SBB ones in the set I'm rather delighted. Italian and French modellers will be happy too. Hurrah for Minitrix! It should be said though that Minitrix has for the last few years been cranking out excellent model after excellent model - the principle difference with this set is that the models are available individually in around the £13-14 region which is new territory price-wise!! Expect to see long rakes of these wagons on European N layouts at exhibitions in future...


The detailing on the new tank wagons is simply brilliant, I love the metallic finish (not quite captured in the picture).

Here is the whole set:


A very happy Goedel
 

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QUOTE (simonj @ 9 Sep 2007, 23:15) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>yes, a local shop where I buy from had the Alpine set split and I picked up the container wagon (with two oil/gas tank type containers) for £19! Do you know which shops are selling them for £13 each in the UK? The packaging is really well done and Fleischmann should take note.
Hello Simonj,

I got mine via mail order from both of the following:
£13 from The Hobby Shop in Kent, but they only have a few left (maybe it's the price!
) (search for 15645)
£13.50 from Morris Models in North Lancing, they have most of the set available and I found their service excellent and fast. I can't get onto their website at the moment but they may be updating it so try it tomorrow...

Also worth trying are Winco although they are slightly more expensive and they don't have an online shop - you have to phone but I gather they are very good too. Aparently they don't list everything on the website because they have so much stock and it is often changing.

Can anyone else recommend a shop in the UK? I also think that the set of 20 can be bought on eBay.de for ~300 EUR if you look carefully which is £200 and so ~£10 per wagon...but then not everyone wants the full spectrum of nationalities represented in their freight train!

QUOTE Do the Minitrix trailers lift out of those deep well cars?
Yes. The deepwell cars are metal and plastic and the trailers can be removed. I have the LKW Augustin one and think it is excellent.

Goedel
 
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