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Hi everyone, up to now my only thread was about an HOe Rack layout I was thinking about building sometime, I have decided to put that on hold for now as my Modern Image intrest has kicked back in with a vengance!!!!

it all started when I spotted Hornbys Pendolino then found out it used to belong to Dapol, then saw the Bachmann Voyager & super voyager, and noticed all the HST liveries that Hornby are doing with their class 43 sets, as well as the GNER 225 revised livery.

Now I want one ! big time, have limited space to build a layout will of course have to set track type track geomertry to keep it simple, as i will be moving in the next couple of years to somehere more permament, and hopefully more space to play with, so the layout will probably need to be dismantled later on.
I will have to stick to radius 2 and three for an oval of track, I want to build a continous run with up and down line and put a terminus station in the centre of the board, spotted a similar track plan in pecos plan book. I would like to keep it DC powered at the start wit hthe option of going over to DCC later on,if thats possible.
Thats the easy bit done , now rolling stock. this is where I need help

I bought a cuple if Train mags the other week at Euston Station, I went to have a look at Mr Bransons new train set, on the southern end of the WCML, Boy I want one of those for starters!
Having now gleamed info from the press and the inter net about the TOC's and leasing, franchizing, refurbishment etc, I am now even more confused than before!

I will list the HST/DMU rolling stock by TOC like the look of and any quieries I have (now the fun begins)

Super voyager
none of these are out in the shops yet
Class 86/7 and class 90 with Mk 2 and mk3 rakes with DVT's in older livery. always liked these, and had a BR rake with an 86 years ago

only question about the Virgin models is . Are Hornby now releasing ex Lima mk3 coaches or are they still sticking to their own shorter coaches, if so I will wait until they do/ he he he

Midland Mainline

Hornbys Midland Mainline HST Packs in the MML latest livery

Are these using ex Lima Mk 3 coaches , so above

There seems to be two packs out at the moment, one is around £19 cheaper than the other Why. any ideas?

It seems to me that Midland Mainline franchise is stable at the moment, So no fear of investing in one of the Horby HST Packs and getting all the coaches together , before the franchise runs out and they all get relivered again!


The Hornby GNER class 91 225 set in the GNER Mallard revised livery
I like the look of these, then read that GNER was in trouble and could loose its franchise soon, with the possiblity of Vigin running them in the short term, GNER logos removed off all the rolling stock untill a new biffer could be found.

Q do I wait for this to happen, and wait for Hornby to catch up with yet another livery change ?

First Great Western

FGW HST Train pack is being released later in the year by Horby, The current ones are or maybe out of date with the current livery, the coaches to go with it are current, I think?, but I have seen refurbished FGW HSTs in a newer livery and with MTU power packs. very trendy iy is too, is this the one that hornby are going to release or it it the pre MTU stock with the gold stripe ?

Night Riveara Sleeper

I see that Bachmann do a decent class 57 hornby are sticking to a class 47 and Helgan are doing a 57 but i have herd a few bad things about the likeness of them comapred to the Bachmann locos.
Coaching stock
Hornby do mk2d in *** packet livery, but no Mk3s either sleeper or day coaches in this livery yet, I have seen some Lima mk3s FGW sleepers on E-Bay and there being snapped up one went for £116.00!!!!
I would like to get one but will wait for Hornby to chuck out the Mk3 coaches in this livery first, they would be stupid not to relaease this scheme as its popular

First Group Night Caledonian Sleeper

Being released by hornby as a train pack, saw a photo of it on the net and didnt down load it

it was a class 90 and 3 mk3 sleepers all in matching livery, the real one has also got M2e coaches or it might be mk3 day coahes as well, hope hornby release these later as well

OK if you have read this far you know whats coming next,

I get paid next week, which train pack do I buy first which isnt going to be out of date with the livery or the coaches are to short. ?

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Discussion Starter · #2 ·
Oh and I forgot one More

One Anglia

Class 86
Class 90
Mk3 coaches and a DVT

yes I like too but would prefer to get one of the others first

One of the virtues of living in London is that you can get to see all of these liveries in one day, abeit in different Stations, some of course are only a stone throw from each other, Euston, St Pancreas, and Kings Cross,
Paddington and Liverpool Street are in opposite directions ,
but hey thats why I have a motorbike for innit LOL

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Discussion Starter · #6 ·
Thanks guys for the infor and advice it will be put to good use, I do wish I could build a larger layout, but i just don't have the space at the moment and I want to knock up something I can run rolling stock on quickly, I have track so I might as well use this in the mean time, eventually I will be getting Peco concrete sleepered flexitrack, if another brand comes along in the mean time that I feel is better I will use that, The overhead wiring wont be going on this layout , it would get damaged in no time as i need to keep stowing away when not in use. But I will be installing it when i get somewhere more permanent to live, as I want to run a high speed track with full rakes,
While I'm waiting for Horby and Bachmann to release there latest batches of HST's I might get one of Bachmann's DMU's, I quite like the look of some of these in particular classes 168 and 170, I also notice that theres a lot of central trains livery around too,. never mind if the worst happens i will get a couple of Hornby pacers, I used to have one , it wasnt to hot on tight Rad 1 bends but it had loads of personality.
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