[Jinty2]

Hi, I've just joined the forum.

Wonder if someone can provide a tip please?
I plan to turn the Hornby Pug into a private owner industrial loco. Does anyone have experience of an alternate motor fixing/mounting so I can get rid of the spring clip that shows on the sides just under the saddle tank? Any suggestions most welcome. Thanks.

 

[7113]

I think I read somewhere that when the railroad series come/came out the Caley pug has a new motor - it might be worth checking.

Regards

John.

 

[John Webb]

The Railway Modeller for March 2007 has an article on using the Caley Pug as the basis for other variations of other locos. One of these retains the 0-4-0 arrangement and improves on the connecting rod and associated items. The writer, however, made the model (in this case based on the Airfix/Dapol kit) unpowered. It is moved by means of a permanently connected coal wagon containing a disguised motor bogie.

Regards,
John Webb

 

[mik]

QUOTE (Jinty2 @ 23 Apr 2007, 07:56) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>Hi, I've just joined the forum.

Wonder if someone can provide a tip please?
I plan to turn the Hornby Pug into a private owner industrial loco. Does anyone have experience of an alternate motor fixing/mounting so I can get rid of the spring clip that shows on the sides just under the saddle tank? Any suggestions most welcome. Thanks.
Hi
I used one of the Hornby smoky joe locos for the basis of a 7mmm narrow gauge project a few years ago, you can cut the spring back close upto the body when done it does not show from normal viewing distance.
Mike

 

[Ravenser]

It's a very heavy duty solution, but Branchlines of Exeter sell a chassis pack for the Pug giving you an etched nickel silver replacement chassis. This has the added benefit that the loco won't take off like a startled hare

If kit built chassis are rather more than you feel up to - and I'm only just making some first attempts myself - then I appreciate it's not really an answer to your problem

 

[Jinty2]

QUOTE (mik @ 23 Apr 2007, 17:22) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>Hi
I used one of the Hornby smoky joe locos for the basis of a 7mmm narrow gauge project a few years ago, you can cut the spring back close upto the body when done it does not show from normal viewing distance.
Mike

I guess that is probably the answer. I was concerned that it would not hold the motor in place properly if I cut it down but on looking again i think it should be OK. Thanks.

 

[Jinty2]

QUOTE (Ravenser @ 23 Apr 2007, 17:51) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>It's a very heavy duty solution, but Branchlines of Exeter sell a chassis pack for the Pug giving you an etched nickel silver replacement chassis. This has the added benefit that the loco won't take off like a startled hare

If kit built chassis are rather more than you feel up to - and I'm only just making some first attempts myself - then I appreciate it's not really an answer to your problem

A good suggestion for the future and I would accept your comments on the way it runs. At this time however I just want a quick project to relearn and practice long forgotten skills of modelling. I am just beginning to model again after many years of having too many other (but not necessarily more important!) things to do. Trying to begin the easy way with a small shunting layout before following the bigger plan. Thanks.

 

[Jinty2]

QUOTE (John Webb @ 23 Apr 2007, 15:35) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>The Railway Modeller for March 2007 has an article on using the Caley Pug as the basis for other variations of other locos. One of these retains the 0-4-0 arrangement and improves on the connecting rod and associated items. The writer, however, made the model (in this case based on the Airfix/Dapol kit) unpowered. It is moved by means of a permanently connected coal wagon containing a disguised motor bogie.

Regards,
John Webb

Thats a good idea. The March RM is probably the only one I didn't buy this year but will keep my eyes open. I had anyway considered the attachment of a permanent "tender". Thanks

 

[Jinty2]

QUOTE (BRITHO @ 23 Apr 2007, 13:52) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>I think I read somewhere that when the railroad series come/came out the Caley pug has a new motor - it might be worth checking.

Regards

John.
Thanks but I already have the model. Purchased cheap at a Fair it is to be used a "practice" to help regain lost skills (if they ever were that!) so if I mess it up then not too much is lost.

 

[Ravenser]

Jinty2:

The running problems - flat out or stall and seemingly nothing in between - seem to be common to all the cheap Hornby 0-4-0 locos. I've found the little Gaugemaster Combi gives a bit better controlability than a normal Gaugemaster with these mechanisms - not sure why but it does.

On an earlier layout I tried to use a Hornby 06 as a shunter and it was a bit of a painful experience

Recently developed locos from Hornby and Bachmann (eg their 08 diesel shunters and arguably the Bachmann Jinty) have vastly better mechanisms . You might also want to look at the small Knightwing diesel shunter kit (not the bigger Sentinel). Its a very simple plastic kit and with some carving underneath you can get a Black Beetle motor bogie inside with plenty of lead in the bonnet.

Black Beetles are available from Branchlines in various wheelbases for £40 and they really do run very nicely

 

[Jinty2]

QUOTE (Ravenser @ 23 Apr 2007, 20:03) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>Jinty2:

The running problems - flat out or stall and seemingly nothing in between - seem to be common to all the cheap Hornby 0-4-0 locos. I've found the little Gaugemaster Combi gives a bit better controlability than a normal Gaugemaster with these mechanisms - not sure why but it does.

On an earlier layout I tried to use a Hornby 06 as a shunter and it was a bit of a painful experience

Recently developed locos from Hornby and Bachmann (eg their 08 diesel shunters and arguably the Bachmann Jinty) have vastly better mechanisms . You might also want to look at the small Knightwing diesel shunter kit (not the bigger Sentinel). Its a very simple plastic kit and with some carving underneath you can get a Black Beetle motor bogie inside with plenty of lead in the bonnet.

Black Beetles are available from Branchlines in various wheelbases for £40 and they really do run very nicely
Ravenser

Ouch! I recently also bought a second hand 06 for the same project! Looks like I will have some running problems. At this time I have not started baseboard construction so have no track laid to test running at this moment. I have "The Saddle" rolling road parts to test run but accept this is not typical of normal running. I guess I will have to look carefully at new chassis for both. I have the Bachmann 08 tucked away (amongst many other modern bigger locos) and have run that on track with a Gaugemaster Combi and that runs beautifully as you say. I have kept up with the magazines but have no practical experience of running these locos yet. Must change that shortly. Thanks for your comments.