[Charley Farley Trelawney]

Hi Guys

I have a couple of diesels that the sound files have not turned out that well, one is the Western Ranger class 52 and the other a 47, both from a well known Loksound agent in the UK.

I am just about to purchase a Lokprogrammer to go with the ECoS controller and with laptop at the ready (which by-the-way is Windows Vista, will the Lokprogrammer still run on Vista? Obviously they only say XP etc in the blurb because Vista was not out then).

Anyway, scenario as follows;

Can you save a bespoke custom file sound before making changes?
Can you replace just the engine sounds and keep the horns, brakes etc?
On the Class 52 I cannot achieve any brake squeal, so wondered if it could be added separately.
If you wanted to make your own recordings and then upload to a function button, would simple recording equipment suffice? I refer specifically to those wonderful station announcements that Richard at DCC concepts included with the Deltic; I have a pal who does station announcements and said he will gladly say what I need while I record; the difficulty is I have little knowledge on converting the recording to usable space (I assume as a WAV file) on the chip via F whatever.

Closing doors, vehicle noise would all be of benefit, if you can play around with a custom file.

Finally, ESU say that with the programmer you can download many steam & diesel sounds for free, and change any spare chips to what you want. I have a SF Kestrel coming and have a couple of spare 3.5 chips, I note that there does seem to be an exact replication of engine sound but if it is the one that includes the station announcement in a non English speaking voice I would want to loose that part, also to replace the foreign 3 tone air horns.

Is anything I have said possible?

Thanks sorry to be a pain, I couldn't find the answers in a search.

Charley

 

[Charley Farley Trelawney]

Thanks Richard; that font thing size came out a bit big; ah well was just trying to pretty it up some

After reading this and looking on ESU there are indeed drivers fro Vista so at least that is fine, and thank you for confirming.

Methinks from what you say its going to be a learning curve from start and after several muck ups I may get the hang of it. I have a couple of diesels hard wired with Loksound 3.5 chips that run well and have no place on the layout so am quite happy to loose or muck them up whilst getting the hang of it.

Thank you again.

Have you got a good quality sound for a Kestral by-the-way? Your Deltic was a cracker

Charley

 

[Charley Farley Trelawney]

Thanks Richard

Charley

 

[Charley Farley Trelawney]

52 is not the best I have ever heard and the 47 requires some tweaking; if I can find an engine sound which matches the diesel I would prefer to spend the time adjusting CV's via the LP, delete the numerous repetitive horns (which fill functions for the sake of it [IMO]) and reassign other sounds such as station announcements etc, but in particular the 52 is poor (again IMO) from tick over to notching and back down again, it is not in the same class as 40's and 37's in particular.

The Howes 52 that I have heard on YT was excellent, the one I have of which there is only one on YT does not show slow running to a higher speed. I have adjusted CV's maximum and medium speed to try to compensate; no luck though as yet.

Charley

 

[Charley Farley Trelawney]

QUOTE (Piemanlarger @ 13 Jan 2009, 22:01) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>have you contacted SWd about it?

Its not a chip i have hesrd really apart from u-tube but i do know some with it and they recon its one of the best yet!

Perhaps you could u-tube the problem?
If I have time, I will YT it later then as you suggest speak to SWD regarding settings. I will use a separate 3 metre length of programme track and you will see the nothing and back on this small length at very low speeds.

CV 3 is at 54 and 4 at 22 so as you wil lsee from that she should take a while to build. Also there is noelectric start prior to engine sound other than using F6 (usually aux) in conjunction with F1, F10 carries the false start.

Charley

 

[Charley Farley Trelawney]

QUOTE (Piemanlarger @ 15 Jan 2009, 16:55) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>Cv 3 seems very high? I take it the chip as as set up by Swd and you have not altered anything?

CV3 is at 50 as issued by Steve so it won't (or shouldn't have made much difference) took your advice though and have had a long chat with SWD and have been offered some positive advice. Much of teh problem may be because I am only running end to end on teh programming track and whilst utilising 0-128 speed steps I may be opening and closing the throttle in by a wider range that I should whilst running end to end.

The advice from Steve makes perfect sense and I fear this may well have been me trying to do to much to quickly instead of taking it easier on a short length; it is after all unrealistic to think on a scale half mile or so that one would blast away; in reality it would probably not do a lot more than 10% from tickover.

Don't get me wrong the sound is awesome; so much so that I have just placed an order for another Western Ranger.

As soon as time permits I will YT it. Mother is ill at the moment and much time is being spent on other things; I'm just having a skive at work on teh forum

Charley

 

[Charley Farley Trelawney]

Garth

Your probably using version 2.6.6 and maybe you have updated to the latest version, I would guess that the problem is either drivers or incompatibility with the interface connection. How are you connecting from PC to the LP? USB to serial cable? or does your PC have serial to serial ability?

If usb to serial throw away that horrible cable that comes with it and get a new one, mine would not run with Vista so I run it on XP, the cable was still not liked so upgraded to a new one and since then no problems. It's a bit difficult to advise further without more info from you. User and random sounds need assigning, the yellow light of teh LP should be flashing when uploading. Do it in this order.

Create a project
SAVE IT to wherever you prefer. SAVE IT SAVE IT SAVE IT.
Sound update
Sound assignments
Decoder update.

If you could supply some further info it would be helpful.

Go to Yahoo Groups Loksound there is some serious help on hand. The ESU forums are OK (ish) Aside from Neil and I on the LP I don't find it that useful really.

(IMO) the LP is a real monster and requires some serious taming; it's capabilities are so vast and teh last ESU manual from 2004/5 is a guide but it honestly is full of holes. I have spent hours on it now and can really make it sing and dance; it took some time though to find all teh tricks it can do.

CFT

 

[Charley Farley Trelawney]

In fairness to David, I actually don't feel he has a speaker issue right now, well not perhaps per se at any rate.

Charley