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With supermarkets in Britain issuing recalls and rumours of more toys of Chinese origin failing to meet CE requirements it could be a very good holiday season for Hornby and Bachmann as their products could literally be the only toys left on the shelves this Xmas!

It is absolutely absurd to think that Hornby and Bachmann will fall into the same trap as other toy manufacturers who appear to have been lackadasical with CE. Hornby take their CE very seriously and no doubt Bachmann do also.

I do wonder though about some of the American imports into the UK as it does seem on the evidence presented that the Americans have less than rigourous quality control procedures.

Whilst not wishing to sound puritanical it does make me slightly angry that companies take capital advantage of poor CE control procedures for commercial gain and I hope every single one of culprits gets caught and locked up for 20 years!


Happy modelling
Gary
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Interesting comments Peter,

If correct about the lack of preventive maintenance, H & S in Chinese manufacturing it makes me wonder how people that perhaps work in a well regulated industry, with good H & S,would feel if they were told that there would be no more preventive maintenance, PA Testing & so on to compete with the far east ?

Double standards ?

So, is the purchaser happy for someone on the other side of the world to make his goods in less than accepted "western" conditions for a lower price, provided the same principles do not apply to him/her in their work.

Personally, I would prefer to pay a little more (& still no actual figures from anyone) & have my goods manufactured closer to home.

Be interesting to see how Chinese made models "stand the test of time" !
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QUOTE (wiggy25 @ 23 Sep 2007, 11:03) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>I wonder what the actual price difference is on a per model basis, from those built overseas and here?

For arguments sake lets say a a RRP of £100 what does it cost to make here and overseas, taking into account all the shipping costs etc.

To have the model built here what would that RRP increase to?

H & B are, of course well aware of what the RRP would be if the models were built here.

There's about as much chance at H or B telling us an honest answer to that one as a traffic free M25 at 8 in the morning !
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Politicians answer Gary !

What I (& others) are asking is how much ? - not how many - your answer only tells me that it would take 3.3 Chinese to do my job !

Yes, the newer models are highly detailed, but what about the stuff that has not really changed - (the HST springs to mind) - AFAIK it's not changed at all.

Regarding Richards "One Man Crusade" that sounds like the pot calling the kettle black - what about yours then ?
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QUOTE (Gary @ 23 Sep 2007, 12:17) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>and the fact is Hornby claim to be selling large numbers of Select units and decoders and if they are this suggests that Hornby understand their customers requirements rather better than DCC experts!

Hornby certainly do understand their customer base - you only have to check out their own DCC forum to work out what type of modeller makes up the bulk of their customer base.
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QUOTE (Gary @ 23 Sep 2007, 12:54) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>A consensus of 5?


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That's still a pretty big majority !

BTW - can't find the new thread about prices.
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QUOTE (Gary @ 23 Sep 2007, 12:54) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>A consensus of 5?


Gary

That's still a pretty big majority !

BTW - can't find the new thread about prices.
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QUOTE (Gary @ 27 Sep 2007, 16:57) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>And even more odd that eBay is allowed to turn a blind eye to such sales.

It's not so much that eBay are allowed to turn a blind eye, as what can be done to make eBay "toe the line" - whatever that line may happen to be !

AFAIK eBay are Swiss owned & therefore again AFAIK not subject to much legislation at all apart from their own.

No matter what your interests, if you look enough you will find lots of examples of double standards.
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