The Vi Trains effort while not bad sufers in comparisom with the Bachmann models, however lets not be too critical of Vitrains, at least they are another manufacturer in the market and hopefully things will improve as far as quality goes. I welcome anyone who can make a half decent model, let hope Vitrains keep going and improve. Lets remember Bachmanns early 37 efforts had quite a few problems with the nose, tumblehome etc.