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Although posted in the OO section IMHO this applies equally to OO & HO (although some of the issues are the same in other scales/gauges).

Some people (myself included) like to illuminate their coaches - to me it adds another interest, although "if you illuminate you have to populate" & then maybe add more detail inside & start changing the colours of seats, floors partitions…………..

We then immediately hit possible compromise -
If using RTR coaches the "floor" is generally too high so we have to chop off passengers legs.
You cannot get 4 HO figures sitting abreast in four HO seats - you may squeeze 4 HO into an OO coach though but they look too cramped.

If you illuminate to a prototypical level you have further compromise -
You will hardly see the lights on at all in either 1930's stock with dim tungsten lighting or even 2000's stock with bright fluorescent & tinted windows, unless the ambient light is almost non-existent.
But how do you "scale" light - look at the different ways you can "scale" time, distance & speed ?

It is getting easier to illuminate - there are kits available from many sources including the ones Richard produces - cost & visually effective - the "golden white" LED's really are superb & the effect on analogue is good with the "Fliker-Free's) & even better on DCC. (Somewhere on the forum is a picture of a conversion that one of our members posted). Adding pickups can be fiddly but once you have worked out how to, it gets easier. You can of course pick up from the locomotive or other coaches & use conductive couplings.

On SL we will try to achieve a compromise so that you will be able to see that the lights are on, but not too bright. People notice the coach lights when the trains are just in the tunnels at either end - when you look into the tunnel mouths you will see nothing - just blackness & not the operators on the other side. Even just adding tail lights makes a difference. Some modellers may think it's a gimmick, but the public likes gimmicks - & with the exception of the specialized shows it's the paying public that pay for you to be there if showing a layout.
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QUOTE (john woodall @ 22 Jun 2008, 08:47) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>Goodness Brian this is a rather thought provoking question for a Sunday!

What do we want with our coaches? Maybe Roco have gone to the extreme with their latest announcement with lights, opening doors and sound. While weight may be an issue, drag could also be a factor. I cannot see roller bearing coaches in HO being the answer let alone affordable!

As I become older and wiser (and maybe a bit more insane!) rakes of three coaches with a decoder to turn the light on and off in individual compartments, direction tail lights that can be turned on and off, correct interior colouring, people, and sound certainly has some appear.

Maybe, just maybe Roco's gimmicky with Brawas detailing is the answer!

John
Hi John,

Well, I thought I'd try & get everyones grey matter going, especially as it can be a little quiet here weekends. Maybe many of us are mostly on here during the week when they should be working (like Dave AKA BRITHO)


I'd completely forgotten about the opening doors & sound !

Drag for pickups does not have to be a problem. I have made some with phospher bronze strip that just rests across the uninsulated axel & thay do not have much drag at all. I'm sure that there was some details somewhere else on the forum of a spring like arrangement, where the coil went round the axel & was virtually friction free.

As for the Roco/Brawa combination - heat proof credit cards required
 

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Hi Martin,

The question was really to see what other people think - as far as I am concerned it is a must to (eventually) have all the coaches lit & populated. Richards kits are superb (we stock them too) & so versitile. In fact (shameless plug) all of Richards kits are very well thought out.

Thanks for the pics - it illustrates the units perfectly.

It's interesting to see the many different views & approach people have on the subject.
 
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