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As many of you may know I collect Fleischmann HO

I have spent quite a bit of time on this old "T3" Loco , one of the first "old Timer loco's" Fleischmann made in HO this one dates back to 1956
as I have 2 of these , I thought I would convert 1 to DCC (excuse the Blue and yellow wires I haven't put new rear lights in yet)


It has a different motor mounting than the later 1960's Locos but I thought I would do a "Dodgy Bros" conversion of the Isolated motor Backplate to make it fit



The motor body had to be filed away at the top to fit the locating tab of the new back plate the Backplate had to be packed up underneath a little to stop it flexing when the mounting screws are tightened. The Original lights were replaced with LED's
The front lights look more O scale than HO


I have the little Lok running on the test track as I type , not as smooth as the 60's loco's but after a bit of fiddling with the backplate and running it in for 10 min each way , its running OK. A bit more CV adjusting and I will have it running slow correctly



The I will have a go at installing some rear lights

This is the BR89.7 or T3 definitely qualifies as a Toy


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Looks great to me. I take it the motor pretty well fills the cab on this era of production then. I can't see where you actually have fitted the decoder?
 

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Hi LF

I forgot to take a picture with the Decoder plugged in
It's a TCS MC2 , the little red bit at the back of the Motor , just under the plug. (the last picture)
The last MC2 my grandson gave me was Green in colour , this must be a newer one
( he received a red one and a green one)

There is a fair bit of room behind the motor or back of the cab
to put in some more lights in as well.

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Hi Zmil,

Just of curiosity, do you have a Fleischmann Br55? If yes, have you converted it? I would really like to have your guidance if you did so.

Thanks

Baykal
 

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QUOTE (ebaykal @ 18 Nov 2008, 16:37) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>Hi Zmil,

Just of curiosity, do you have a Fleischmann Br55? If yes, have you converted it? I would really like to have your guidance if you did so.

Thanks

Baykal
Hi Baykal

I have done the early version 4145 with an M1 decoder I could Email you a pdf document with the install if you like.
The only difficult part from memory, was taking the power pickups out (easy part) then putting them back in was a bit more fiddly.
I also reused the Original Lamp and powered it half wave on that conversion
Now I always use the blue wire for power and replace the lamps with LEDs

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Thanks Zmil and Brian,

Mine is the 4155, I'd appreciate it Zmil. I will PM you my e-mail. I will have go at it and see if I can manage it.
If not, Brian they are all comming to you. Flm 4145, 4367 and the Roco Br57
, the last 3 remnants of my collection which are still analogue.

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Hi Baykal

The email is on its way I put two different files on which I believe will help.
As your loco's are newer (post FMZ) they have isolated backplates which only need a little modification to convert to digital

4367 dates from 1995 so it should have a similar backplate (I haven't got the service sheet for that one)

Hope this helps

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QUOTE (ebaykal @ 18 Nov 2008, 11:03) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>Thanks Zmil and Brian,

Mine is the 4155, I'd appreciate it Zmil. I will PM you my e-mail. I will have go at it and see if I can manage it.
If not, Brian they are all comming to you. Flm 4145, 4367 and the Roco Br57
, the last 3 remnants of my collection which are still analogue.

Baykal

Not a problem - be pleased to sort them out for you.
 

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QUOTE (1ngram @ 19 Nov 2008, 02:49) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>How old is this one and how easy to DCC?

http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/FLEISCHMANN-HO-OO-LO...A1%7C240%3A1318

Will the wheels run on Code 75 track? Partdon my ignorance but I'm looking for a WW1 era tank loco and this looks the part.

Looking at the running no. (A bit hard to read with the poor quality Photo)
and that the loco does not have blackened wheels it must date from 1978-83 the 4094
is a EpIII version (3 headlights DB) , not sure if it will run on code 75 I have not tried before
It is an easy one to convert to DCC , a little cut on the motor backplate and the decoder can fit in the coal bunker behind the cab , I used a TCS M1. If your other Modified Fleischmann Loco will run on the code 75 , this one will too is my guess .

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Hi all just reading thoughts on decoders in order locos any body done a airfix 14xx not to sure on how to isolate the lower motor as it has a long spring loaded pin going down through to pick ups as I have one that as new can any one help with advice
Noel ??????????
 

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QUOTE (ebaykal @ 20 Nov 2008, 02:30) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>I have found this site to be well documented in Fleischmann backplates.

http://www.modellbahn-online.de/inhalt/dig...igitalsteuerung

The hows & don'ts.

Baykal

Thanks Baykal

fantastic link , it takes the guesswork out of what motor shield or backplate fits what motor
I'm currently re-writing the babel fish translation of the page for it to make sense in English

Brian
the loco that started this post uses the same backplate as the 4369 (I noticed it was not on the website Baykal mentioned) so I could do another Dodgy Bros backplate
for that one - Ive run out of isolated backplates though.

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The Fleischmann Br 55 is the most dreaded loco for hardwiring into DCC, so say certain modelers in various forums.

I am thinking out loud now. How about me trying to convert it; online, in a pictural format in another thread. With the help of the forum members of how/what to do? Might be intersting and helpful and be one of its kind.

What do you all say?

Baykal

P.S: Just keep in mind this poor soul has nearly zero knowledge on electrical bits
 

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Hi All

I finally put the tail lighting in (robbed a couple of Prototype Whites from The DCC Concepts Flicker Free Kit)



I wired these up in series with a 1k resistor created a couple of holes in the existing faux lamps with a 7/64th drill bit.



Tried to keep the wiring out of the way and against the back wall of the cab.



Tested the lights before soldering on the Blue and Yellow wire

Blast I'm missing a couple of photos


Anyway the Problem is Lighting works fine But wont turn off


I tested with the body off first -will not turn off with F0 just stays on regardless
I have done a decoder reset (back to defaults)- still the same .


What have I done wrong - there are no shorts functions have not been remapped

Mean while I will take an other couple of photo's to post later



Regards Zmil
 
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