Dapol Class 22 - "highest specification OO gauge"

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Jennings

Discussion Starter · Mar 5, 2008 (Edited by Moderator)

D6343 with Hymek D7072 at Old Oak Common, 1965. Author: Max Batten. From Wikipedia.

Dapol have announced the release of a class 22 locomotive in OO (Will be released in N as well)

QUOTE (Dapol News Release 4 March 2008)We take great pleasure in publicly announcing that we have, for some months now, been working on a North British class 22 locomotive for release in OO gauge.

This locomotive will have the highest specification yes seen in OO gauge and will set a new 'Benchmark' for the genre.

It will feature 3 different front ends and 2 different side variants from release, in 3 liveries:- BR Blue, BR Green and BR green with small yellow warning panel.

Worth noting is that Dapol will keep with tradition and only release limited quantities of each running number (provisionally 300 of each) and expect the initial batch to be 6 x BR Green and 4 x BR Blue.

It is also our intention to produce weathered examples at a future date, and we will not release duplicate running numbers.

Further details below.

http://www.dapol.co.uk/index.php?option=co...2&Itemid=64

Sounds very interesting

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dwb

· #2 · Mar 5, 2008

QUOTE This locomotive will have the highest specification yes seen in OO gauge and will set a new 'Benchmark' for the genre.

Having just had a close look at my new NRM / Bachmann Deltic, they're going to have to "go some" to achieve that aim!

Good luck to them just the same.

David

rb277170

· #3 · Mar 5, 2008

Good news! While I don't need a 22, I applaud Dapols re-entry into the OO locomotive market. What with Bachmann Deltics, Heljan Falcons , it really bodes well for the manufacture of some of the more obscure prototypes. Here's hoping its a huge success and that Dapol will then turn their hands to yet more subjects.

I see from the Bachmann interview in Rail Express that there is likely to be further models commissioned by NRM. City of Truro anyone?

Russell

dwb

· #4 · Mar 5, 2008

QUOTE it really bodes well for the manufacture of some of the more obscure prototypes

You've got me wondering how far this could go, so rather than hijack this topic, I've started another one here.

David

Merry Go Round

· #5 · Mar 6, 2008

I look forward to having one as long as it comes in at under £100, and I too think it is a very bold move by Dapol and they deserve to have great sales for taking a step like this.

Shaun

34C

· #6 · Mar 6, 2008

QUOTE (dwb @ 5 Mar 2008, 22:29) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>Having just had a close look at my new NRM / Bachmann Deltic, they're going to have to "go some" to achieve that aim!
Seconded. Which is very good news indeed!

7113

· #7 · Mar 6, 2008 (Edited by Moderator)

I wasn't that far out in my almanac then - although I did say class 21 - got the month right though!

Should be an interesting model.

Regards

pedromorgan

· #8 · Mar 6, 2008 (Edited by Moderator)

Typical. i have just bought a resin one!

Seriously though. its really not my thing but i wish them the best of luck with this project.

I must admit i am pretty skeptical about this. I am not expecting anything spectacular (even by class 22 standards!)

Any guesses on a price? i'l kick off with £100.

Peter

wiggy25

· #9 · Mar 7, 2008

The specs so far of the class22:-

"The specification for this model (at present) is as follows,
5 pole skew wound can motor
2 large brass flywheels
21 pin DCC board fitted
DCC sound compatible
Removable painted cab (for crew fitting)
Directional lighting
Cab lighting
Heavy metal split frame chassis
Spoked see through RP25.110 darkened wheels
Low friction mechanism with pin point bearings
Lit headcode boxes
Alternate customer fitted headcode characters
separately applied handrails
Etched steel windscreen wipers
Etched roof fan grille with fan detail below
Customer fited air pipes and coupling chains
NEM coupling socket

The RRP has yet to be decided upon, but should be in line with current thinking for a model of this calibre.
The release is scheduled for 2009 and as normal information regarding cad/cam drawings and precise livery information will be posted on our website during the following months.

It is also our intention to scale down this model to N gauge in the future"

It does sound good!

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80class

· #10 · Mar 7, 2008

Yes it sounds very good. I can't help but wonder when or if this trend for producing batches of lessor known locos will see the release of some of the many missing steam locos.

Rob

FALCON 53

· #11 · Mar 7, 2008

I've been waiting a long time for a major manufacturer to take the plunge and produce the class 22. I'm really looking forward to this model, and will probably purchase upwards of 4 versions dependant on the price. Well done Dapol for taking the plunge. Lets hope your endeavour is rewarded. Now just the Co-Bo's, Baby Deltics, BTH 15's, Teddybears ect to go ...... We wish.

bangerblueed

· #12 · Mar 7, 2008

I don't think Dapol are taking a risk with this if heljan can sell 2400 falcons and the NRM can sell out of 3000 prototype deltics there is a demand it is far less risky a proposition than for heljan to produce a class 17 and although i do not model the Western region I do like to have the odd example of each class of Hydraulic so with limited runs of just 300 of each loco there will probably be a LOT of competition for slots in the production plus I'm sure at least one magazine will commission a limited edition as well so i would say that the odds of the first 3000 produced not selling are probably very long and with the specification mentioned i would expect a £110 to £120 price tag although I am surprised at the split chassis when other manufacturers are moving away from them

34C

· #13 · Mar 8, 2008

QUOTE (bangerblueed @ 7 Mar 2008, 21:17) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>although I am surprised at the split chassis when other manufacturers are moving away from them
Hornby use the split chassis principle on their Brush type 2 / class 31, (and may well use it in their other recent bogie diesels). Well executed as on that model it is a very good pick up method, so I would suggest that there is no need to have reservations on that score.

Sol

· #14 · Mar 8, 2008

Split chassis would be OK as long as the motor terminals are not fitted directly to the chassis but via the 8 pin socket/plug or board for directional lighting.

pedromorgan

· #15 · Mar 8, 2008

absoloutly. as long as its done well.

Athearn used this method of pickup for many years and its been faultless. the problem comes when they make it impossible to isolate the motor from the frames.

Peter

Thunder

· #16 · Mar 8, 2008

I have allways thought of the 22 as a bit of an ugly duckling, that has hit a wall and pushed the front in, but saying that i will endevour to purchase one for my layout, is this the first OO gaouge loco that dapol have produced? the spec sounds good, cant comment on the split chasis on diesels, are they the same as those on steam locos? if it is a success, maybe we will get more obscure treats from Dapol in OO.

Colombo

· #17 · Mar 8, 2008

QUOTE (Thunder @ 8 Mar 2008, 11:45) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>I have allways thought of the 22 as a bit of an ugly duckling, that has hit a wall and pushed the front in, but saying that i will endevour to purchase one for my layout, is this the first OO gaouge loco that dapol have produced? the spec sounds good, cant comment on the split chasis on diesels, are they the same as those on steam locos? if it is a success, maybe we will get more obscure treats from Dapol in OO.

I wonder if Dapol have got hold of the old Hornby body moulds and intend to upgrade them?

Colombo

34C

· #18 · Mar 8, 2008

QUOTE (Thunder @ 8 Mar 2008, 11:45) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>.. is this the first OO gauge loco that dapol have produced? the spec sounds good, cant comment on the split chasis on diesels, are they the same as those on steam locos? ..
Dapol have produced locos in the past. For example, the tooling for the J94 now in Hornby's range originated with them. To clarify on the split chassis comment I posted earlier, the principle lends itself very well to vehicles on bogies, as the split chassis element may be confined to the bogie frames, with wired connections to a small distribution board. The main chassis block then remains electrically dead, so there are no complications for DCC installation. I would hope this is what Dapol intend.

Tonyperks

· #19 · Mar 9, 2008

I didnt realise hornby ever made a 22 they did a 29 which looked similar but quite a bit different, overall, I would Buy one they would look great hauling a rake of clay hoods.

FALCON 53

· #20 · Mar 9, 2008

QUOTE (Colombo @ 8 Mar 2008, 17:57) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>I wonder if Dapol have got hold of the old Hornby body moulds and intend to upgrade them?

Colombo
I think the mouldings you are refering to are the original 30 year old class 21/29 mouldings. These have not been in the Hornby range for a while now. I also think these would need considerable reworking as the main problem would be the body length. If i remeber correctly the 22's were about 6-8ft shorter than their diesel electric counterparts

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