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Hello all,

So I've just returned from my local model shop where they had a 'Dr Who' Dapol Voyager dummy set. Apparently it was ordered by someone but never purchased.

My question is about the couplers. The staff in the shop helped me look at the coupling arrangement but we couldn't find anything that looked like couplers for joining this set to another voyager. They said said they'd contact Dapol next week to ask, but I thought someone here might know how these couple up. Surely it must be possible, otherwise what's the point of this unpowered set?

I'd also be interested to know if the set can couple to a Farish Voyager or if it'll have to be a Dapol version.

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Hi N Gauge James,

I remembered this announcement:

http://www.dapol.co.uk/index.php?option=co...8&Itemid=65

This seems to state that there are couplings provided for the Dr. Who dummy set in the box, and that additional 'spares' would be forthcoming to retrofit existing 220/221 sets - or have I got that wrong

I have seen one on another forum some time ago hauled by a 'Thunderbird' 57, but I haven't seen anything since, but I'd be interested if I missed it and somebody could point me in the right direction


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Hi all,
For anyone who may have been waiting:
http://www.dapol.co.uk/index.php
You can now get the promised coupling conversion to retro-fit your Dapol 220/221 with working Scharfenburg couplers - instructions to be posted on their website in the next couple of days.

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Hi Gerry,
Good to see some progress with a different coupling on British stock ....... though a couple of questions arise with them ....

Why is it deemed neccessary to release a conversion kit disassembling the loco to fit new couplings with a new chassis rather than a way to fit them to existing ones ?

The coupler is listed as working is this fully working without the ''hand of god'' intervening ...... if so do they need a magnet or similar to use them ?

It would be nice to see a coupler for British stock without the need for an electrical uncoupler or similar used in the past, and would make a refreshing change for N scale modellers.
 

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I'm guessing this is the Tomix Scharfenberg - I bought some a couple of years back but haven't found a use for them. If it's the one I'm thinking of then not only does it not work automatically but you need a fair pull to separate them, probably by lifting both coaches off the track. On the upside it's unlikely to uncouple of its own accord.
 

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QUOTE (upnick @ 30 Apr 2009, 00:19) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>Why is it deemed neccessary to release a conversion kit disassembling the loco to fit new couplings with a new chassis rather than a way to fit them to existing ones ?

The coupler is listed as working is this fully working without the ''hand of god'' intervening

It would be nice to see a coupler for British stock without the need for an electrical uncoupler or similar used in the past, and would make a refreshing change for N scale modellers.
Ahh, the 'Holy Grail' of British N-gaugers everywhere, a descrete, properly functioning coupler, although I've only seen individual DCC efforts (one in 2mm scale
)where uncoupling could be effected without a conventional electronic uncoupler. I think the deal with Tomix happened after the original Voyager release so at least Dapol 'did the decent thing' and went to the trouble of making this a promise when they saw a need for it. It seems to me from both the announcement and the conversion instructions that it hasn't been an easy option to pursue.
There was an obscure reference in an NGS management committee meeting report last December (I think, working from memory here
) that they were not now looking at a new coupling as a manufacturer was working on something - nothing more than that, and no news since I'm afraid.
One manufacturer did trial a clear plastic Rapido type on my suggestion but decided against going ahead with them, I purchased the very small quantity they produced and I plan to use them on a fixed rake of private owner wagons when I have my layout up and running
They have the same problems as that big black lumpy Rapido between wagons has in operational terms, but 'clearly' not so visually clumsy I feel.

QUOTE (Edwin @ 30 Apr 2009, 08:17) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>I'm guessing this is the Tomix Scharfenberg - I bought some a couple of years back but haven't found a use for them. If it's the one I'm thinking of then not only does it not work automatically but you need a fair pull to separate them, probably by lifting both coaches off the track. On the upside it's unlikely to uncouple of its own accord.
It has indeed come about as part of the deal they have with Tomix, I've not had any experience myself with these but as with my comments above it does have some merit above the positive ones you've referred to, and again, when my layout is operational I'm tempted to go for these as they at least look the part.
I did notice Dapol's comment that they were not supplying the couplings on their own, as well as their claim to be testing the ones they send out in the conversion packs


Anyway, I'd be interested if anyone were to post their experiences in fitting these to their Voyagers for multiple-working


Regards, Gerry.
 

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I believe Microtrains are considering a NEM version of their coupling, though as far as I'm aware they have not committed to producing one. At the moment these can be fitted to the older Farish pockets but not the newer NEM version, so they can't be used as a universal coupling.

I've recently fitted some Red Caboose couplings within rakes. These can't be separated without lifting one vehicle off the track, but are a fairly easy way of bringing the wagons closer together, making them a bit less visually obtrusive and (I hope) reducing the tendency to uncouple randomly. They are only available in non-NEM versions but Dapol do something similar for NEM pockets. At present I'm sticking with Rapido for locos and ends of rakes until the situation on Microtrains becomes a bit clearer.

I've also wondered about the Fleischmann profi-coupling (available for both pocket types I think) but a bit put off by the lack of available info on the Net and the fact that they can't be operated magnetically.

Looking at the magnetic intermediate couplings on the Dapol Voyager, I wonder if something similar could be used at the end of multiple units? It would need a north and south pole alongside each other so as to be reversible, and to be a bit smaller than Dapol's version. My idea is that the magnets would be strong enough to keep the units together in normal operation but using DCC or isolating sections one unit could simply be driven away from the other one. However this might also cause them to separate if one unit briefly lost power, so you'd need very good wheel-rail contact for this to be workable.
 

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QUOTE (Edwin @ 30 Apr 2009, 10:01) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>I believe Microtrains are considering a NEM version of their coupling, though as far as I'm aware they have not committed to producing one. At the moment these can be fitted to the older Farish pockets but not the newer NEM version, so they can't be used as a universal coupling.

Hi Edwin,

N scale British stock/locos has needed a decent coupler able to be uncoupled easily for years i do hope MT develop a conversion for them and as soon as possible allowing modellers better operations on the layout.
 
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