[adecoaches26point4]

Latest addition to my Loco roster

Tender drive with drive shaft to loco wheels.
DCC ready.
Finally a dimensionally correct model that has the look of the prototype.
Weathered very convincingly by Dave Smith, a fellow modeller.

David

 

[Al]

Looks excellent..

 

[neil_s_wood]

David, do you think it is better than the Trix and PCM models?

 

[pedromorgan]

question from a thickie.... why is that 01 different from mine? is one of them refurbished? i dont really do german steamers so i dont know. is it just a different flavour? was the 01 designation a general term for pacifics?

Peter

 

[Brian Considine]

Hi Peter,

The 01's varied a lot - I have 5 different versions & there are many, many more.

 

[adecoaches26point4]

Neil,

I do not have the two you quote,so cannot comment,but I have the Liliput and the Marklin versions of the 01.10 and would say that the Roco one is miles ahead in detail than the other two.
But please bare in mind the age of these two

I also have the Merker and Fischer versions,but thats another story(brass and whitemetal)

Peter,

The 01 was the standard 2 cylinder Express loco of the DRG and some were rebuilt after the war by the DB and DR.this is the one you have.

The 01.10 was the heavy weight with 3 cylinders and was streamlined when first built by the DRG.
All this class stayed in West Germany after the war and had the streamlining removed,some were left as coal burners and others were converted to oil,which is the version I have.
These were all based in Northern Germany and lasted until 1975.
The 03 was the light weight version of the 01 and the story of there life is the same as for the 01.
The 03.10 was also a streamliner and were rebuilt by the DB with new boilers,but ownly lasted until 1967.
The DR also rebuilt the ones they got,the as built versions had a problem with the boiler,a few blew up

This is a taster to give you the gist on these Loco's.

David

 

[pedromorgan]

Thanks. it sounds like a bit of a minefield but i think i get the gist!

I bought mind because i thought it looked nice!

Peter

 

[Richard Johnson]

QUOTE (pedromorgan @ 10 Dec 2007, 22:01) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>Thanks. it sounds like a bit of a minefield but i think i get the gist!

I bought mind because i thought it looked nice!

Peter

*** OK, my turn for a dumb question: Qit hpurpose I may add - I'm tentatively putting my toe into EU waters model-wise at the moment - all those lovely EU prorotype loco's I chip for others have eventually got to me .

How long did that red chassis really stay red... I can imagine the wheels & rods might get a look in with an oily rag but the chassis is a devil of a place to get to to clean or did they actually manage to get to it regularly??? Is there any good colour prototype reference online for it??

Richard

 

[adecoaches26point4]

Richard,

Two reference photo's found on the Drehscheie Website.
Both show 01.10 loco's in late 1960's/1970's condition.

That's what you call weathering

David

 

[7113]

QUOTE (adecoaches26point4 @ 10 Dec 2007, 16:43) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>

That's what you call weathering

David

and a missing set of wheels.....

Regards

 

[neil_s_wood]

Someone told me that the reason the wheels were painted red was because it was easier to see cracks. However if they normally looked like that then it wouldn't have made any difference.

Trix are doing a very nice weathered BR44 at the moment. Would be nice to get this weathering on a few others. I understand if you are in Germany (or elsewhere if you want to fork out for the postage) you can have them factory weather your model for you. The Big Boy I saw was an awesome job.

 

[Richard Johnson]

Excellent images - thank you!

Richard

 

[adecoaches26point4]

Peter,

Some pic's for you on the DB 01, 2 cylinder pacific's.

Loco as built for the DRG pre-war.

DB loco still with the appron but has the smaller Witte deflectors.

DB loco with front appron removed and small deflectors.

DB rebuilt some with new boilers as shown in this example.

The small Witte type deflectors were standard fittings for this class of loco.
As you can see three different locos of the same class all running on DB at the time Epoch III.
All of these have been available as models and some still are,see the PCM 01 thread.
I hope this clears a little mud from the water.
DR types I know very little about,maybe someone can throw some light on these types.

All the best,

David

 

[Brian Considine]

QUOTE (adecoaches26point4 @ 11 Dec 2007, 16:48) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>DR types I know very little about,maybe someone can throw some light on these types.

Some of the DR 01's were semi-streamlined (only really the domes) & some of those had Boxpok wheels, again some oil fired, some coal, just to muddy the waters back up a bit !

 

[neil_s_wood]

While we have some expert opinion on German steam locos I wanted to know is the difference between the Class 44 and 50 in that one has two cylinders and the other has three? They both look pretty similar visually and this is the only difference I can come up with. Although these are both 2-10-0's I figured you would probably know about these too.

 

[adecoaches26point4]

Neil,

The DB Class 50 series were the 2 cylinder light weight loco's, I would consider there use as mixed traffic machines, say on par with a UK black five.(DB's general workhorse).

The Class 44 on the other hand was the 3 cylinder heavy freight machine, reportedly one of the most powerful loco's in Europe.

The main visual difference is the larger boiler on the BR44 and of course the third cylinder protruding at the front of the Loco.
A small number were also rebuilt as Oil burners.

Some had the front apron, from the front of the boiler down to the buffer beam and others had this feature removed.

Both classes of loco could also be found with cabs only having one window at the rear of the cab.

Another combination that happened was the pairing of some of both classes with the light weight Wannen (tub) tenders.

My frequent visits to Paderborn, showed that the class 50 was used on Passenger and pick up freight trains, where as the bigger Class 44 were on the heavy through freight trains, Some with up to 40 wagon in tow.

David

 

[neil_s_wood]

Thanks for that info David, much appreciated.

I guess I will have to get the model now.

Any excuse will do.

 

[7113]

And we thought that they all looked the same!

Regards

 

[custodian]

QUOTE (BRITHO @ 13 Dec 2007, 14:26) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>And we thought that they all looked the same!

Regards

Black with red wheels

 

[7113]

obviously it's now dirty black wheels.......

Regards