DB 103 TEE Electric loco's

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simonj

Discussion Starter · Feb 14, 2009

I'm looking to buy a HO scale 103 TEE loco, probably the Fleischmann version however when comparing the various models between manufacturers, none look anything like each others models! Is there some widespread inaccuracy in the production of this model or are there actually different variants?

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christoph

· #2 · Feb 14, 2009

Hi,

QUOTE (simonj @ 14 Feb 2009, 21:36) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>I'm looking to buy a HO scale 103 TEE loco, probably the Fleischmann version however when comparing the various models between manufacturers, none look anything like each others models! Is there some widespread inaccuracy in the production of this model or are there actually different variants?

err, what exactly do you mean? They are all the same shape and all models appear to be quite accurate but there are some variations. Personally, I consider the Roco version to be the better one but purely because I am not fully convinced by the Fleischmann motor which drives one bogie only.

Kind regards

Christoph

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neil_s_wood

· #3 · Feb 14, 2009

They are the same loco but there were different variants.

This link has more info.

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Brian Considine

· #4 · Feb 15, 2009

There were many detail variations on the 103's which tended to give them a very different appearance.

The later Roco's are excellent runners, but some of the earlier ones with the very large motor & no flywheels can be indifferent runners. These earlier ones can be a pain to chip due to lack of space for the decoder.

Although the FLM one only drives at one end they are usually good runners & powerful too. Plenty of room for the decoders in these.

IMHO I would avoid the Lima one.

Hope thuis helps.

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adecoaches26point4

· #5 · Feb 15, 2009

QUOTE (simonj @ 14 Feb 2009, 20:36) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>I'm looking to buy a HO scale 103 TEE loco, probably the Fleischmann version however when comparing the various models between manufacturers, none look anything like each others models! Is there some widespread inaccuracy in the production of this model or are there actually different variants?

The prototype locos can be indentified by the silver roof with rain strip and older style pantograph.

Then you mave the version with longer drivers cabs and single arm pantographs.
Some have skirts under the puffer beam and others have had them removed.

The skirts were black or brown in Colour.
Hope this helps, if I can assist, let me know.

David

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Brian Considine

· #6 · Feb 15, 2009

Thanks for that additional information David.

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adecoaches26point4

· #7 · Feb 15, 2009

Image of the version with brown skirt and longer drivers cabs.
This is made by Roco.

David

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adecoaches26point4

· #8 · Feb 15, 2009

QUOTE (Brian Considine @ 15 Feb 2009, 17:16) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>Thanks for that additional information David.

My pleasure

David

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neil_s_wood

· #9 · Feb 15, 2009

It's probably worth mentioning that Trix did one three years ago which had a digitally controlled raising and lowering of pantographs.

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ashleyh

· #10 · Feb 15, 2009

Yes, the Marklin/Trix version is a nice model (I have 3, one with the digitally controlled pantographs), though it is from very old tooling and has two screws on the rooof set back from the cabs.

It used to have a metal lower body and a plastic upper, but they changed it about 5 years ago to all metal, but appearing to use the same casting for the chassis, hence the roof screws. Still my favourite version though

I also have a couple of Roco ones, a short cab version and a long cab version. They are nice modern toolings, with fitted windscreen wipers andgood detail, and run very nicely. I had a Fleischmann TEE version many years ago, from memory it ran very nicely, and also had a metal lower body and chassis, but a plastic upper body. Though Fleischmann plastic is of arguably better quality than Roco.

You pays your money.....

Regards
Ashley

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simonj

Discussion Starter · #11 · Feb 15, 2009

thanks for the replies, looks like I might be better off seeing them all in the flesh before making my decision.

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7113

· #12 · Feb 17, 2009

QUOTE (adecoaches26point4 @ 15 Feb 2009, 17:10) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>The prototype locos can be indentified by the silver roof with rain strip and older style pantograph.

Also the prototypes only had a single row of grills.

I would agree with the comment to avoid the Lima ones.

Regards

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