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QUOTE (alastairq @ 24 Nov 2007, 15:14) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>whilst on the topic of buses....why is it, that when today's train services collapse, and buses are run between stations...do the railcos hire the scrappiest, most untidy, scruffy old heaps they can find?

Simple - cheapest quote & you get what you pay for.
 

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Although driver availability may be a minor issue there are plenty of agency/part time drivers around. I am reliably informed by a friend who sometimes organises replacement buses for a TOC that price indeed is the deciding factor (incidently, on the rare occasions I have used replacement buses they have always been respecable vehicles).

Don't really thing "Group A/Group B" makes much difference, in today's ecomomic climate money is money so it does not really matter whose it is.

If a company is short of drivers it means they are basically a s*** company to work for in terms of conditions or wages - good companies that employ drivers (PCV/LGV or whatever) are never short of good drivers - it all comes down to money again.

QUOTE (Ravenser @ 24 Nov 2007, 23:07) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>dbclass50
More likely to be a question of who actually has drivers and vehicles spare they can offer. The decent buses will be working the bus company's own routes for their own passengers- it's the old heaps that will stand idle and are only pressed into service as a last resort. Like when the railway ring to say they have a problem.... And if main local bus company is a part of Group A and the local franchise is operated by Group B? Will Group A fall over themselves to help?

I know of one largish bus company where I was told by a contact they were so short of drivers they simply couldn't bid for contract work. And in cases of emergency /service problems the cry from station staff is often "we've rung round but we can't get any buses..."

I'd have thought Javelins could work in multiple? So you use the next train to couple on and provide Thunderbird capability? I can't remember when I last heard of an EMU being rescued by a loco (Pendolinos aside - they don't work in multiple). Most EMU failures are for something like door problems anyway - the chances of an EMU failing completely and being immovable between stations are probably pretty low
 
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