Decoder Install in a Bachman Hall

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MarkyGWR

Discussion Starter · Jul 18, 2008

I have a Bachman Kinlet Hall, which is DCC ready, and thus has an onboard 8 pin socket.

I have purchased a decoder with a plug, but having taken the loco apart, there is no room to fit it, other than removing the front weight andd placing it in the boiler, which I would rather not do.

Does anyone know if any decoders with onboard pins such as the Lenz silver direct would fit?

Thanks

Mark

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Makemineadouble

· #2 · Jul 18, 2008

2

By a TCS decoder much cheaper and as good as or better performance, I think the one with the plug is the TCS M1-UK why not remove the plug and hard wire
in the decoder you'll have more space.

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Chirkwood

· #3 · Jul 18, 2008 (Edited by Moderator)

I have encountered the same problem and can see no where else except where the weight goes .I have tried fitting the new ZTC Diamond decoder (just the plug no wires) but there is not enough room. I have tried as recommended by MMAD the TCS M1 with a UK 8 pin plug but fitting in as above i.e. where weight goes the wires are not long enough. I guess the next step for me is to buy a TCS M1 without a plug and hard wire in direct.

BromsMods

· #4 · Jul 18, 2008

Try a direct plug-in decoder, such as the TCS DP2X-UK - no wires and should just sit over the DCC socket.

Regards

John R
Bromsgrove Models

MarkyGWR

Discussion Starter · #5 · Jul 19, 2008

Thanks,
I will be on the phone next week.

All the best.

Mark

butler-henderson

· #6 · Jul 19, 2008

Chirkwood could not get a ZTC4007 to fit so I doubt a TCS DP2X-UK will fit as they are virtually identical in size.

Basil

· #7 · Jul 19, 2008

Try this site

(I left this on another topic site here)

http://www.wiringfordcc.com/wwwtips.htm#a2

very useful.

Basil

Chirkwood

· #8 · Jul 20, 2008

I found the ZTC4007 just a fraction too wide

MarkyGWR

Discussion Starter · #9 · Jul 20, 2008

Chirkwood,
Do you have the dimensions of the 4007, as I have done a search, and can't actually find them.

The TCS is Length: 0.845", Width: 0.680", Height: 0.165".

Thanks

Mark

Chirkwood

· #10 · Jul 21, 2008

Sorry I dont know them but I have just e-mailed ZTC to find out - as soon as they reply I'll let you know

BromsMods

· #11 · Jul 21, 2008

QUOTE (MarkyGWR @ 20 Jul 2008, 14:00) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>Chirkwood,
Do you have the dimensions of the 4007, as I have done a search, and can't actually find them.

The TCS is Length: 0.845", Width: 0.680", Height: 0.165".

Thanks

Mark

Mark

Those dimensions aren't correct for the DP2X-UK. Should be:

Size:

* Length: 0.69" 17.5mm
* Width: 0.460" 11.7mm
* Height: 0.14" 3.5mm

See http://www.bromsgrovemodels.co.uk/pd-14220...m?categoryId=90 for more details.

Regards

John R
Bromsgrove Models

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Chirkwood

· #12 · Jul 21, 2008

Hi Mark

ZTC have replied and dimensions are as follows for the ZTC4007

L 19.95mm x W 11.5mm x D 3.66mm

The TCS DP2X- UK is a fraction smaller and may well fit. If you decide to buy one from John and it fits okay perhaps you could let me know

Regards

Chirkwood

MarkyGWR

Discussion Starter · #13 · Jul 21, 2008

Chirkwood,
Thanks for checking, I will order one, and will let you know how I get on.

All the best.

Mark

MarkyGWR

Discussion Starter · #14 · Jul 30, 2008

Chirkwood,
I am afraid it doesn't fit.

I even tried desoldering the socket, and removing the coil pack, but there just isn't enough room.

Next thing is to remove the weight just forward of the motor to see if I can get one in there.

Do you know if removing the coil pack creates any problems?

Regards

Mark

Chirkwood

· #15 · Aug 2, 2008

Thanks for letting me know

hereward

· #16 · Aug 2, 2008

Neither tcs or ztc wireless decoders will not fit the hall they get in the way of the fastening screws,hardwire to a tcsmi this definitely works

MarkyGWR

Discussion Starter · #17 · Aug 4, 2008

Thanks Hereward, I will give it a go.

Regards

Mark

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