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I know that this site leans heavy towards British Prototype but are there any of you out there that is interested in Continental Modeling and specifically German Railroads?
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Yes - I'm interested in German prototypes, especially Epochs 1 & 2. Most of my collection is HO, but I also have some Z and gauge 1.
This was really brought about by the quality of the models from Fleischmann/Trix/Roco/Rivarossi/Marklin, although British models are now catching up.
I am more of a collector, but recently purchased a twin level mountain Z layout that needs some refurbishment. It has large amounts of track, all electric turnouts and full catenary. There are two hidden spirals, one at each end. A project or what!!
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This was really brought about by the quality of the models from Fleischmann/Trix/Roco/Rivarossi/Marklin, although British models are now catching up.
I am more of a collector, but recently purchased a twin level mountain Z layout that needs some refurbishment. It has large amounts of track, all electric turnouts and full catenary. There are two hidden spirals, one at each end. A project or what!!
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Bob,
Here's something to lighten your wallet ...
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These run around 8,200 euros. Of course if you can't afford these they have an economy like than go for around 2,500 euros.
For more info on Kiss Modellbahn go here.
Note: There is no truth to the rumour that the company's name comes from the remark that you can kiss your a** goodbye if the wife ever found out how much you paid for your "little train".
Here's something to lighten your wallet ...
These run around 8,200 euros. Of course if you can't afford these they have an economy like than go for around 2,500 euros.
For more info on Kiss Modellbahn go here.
Note: There is no truth to the rumour that the company's name comes from the remark that you can kiss your a** goodbye if the wife ever found out how much you paid for your "little train".
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From another N and HO Continentaller, driven to it by similar reasons to bobknee, that BR10 is a beautiful creation.
I may have something similar to show later on . . .
I may have something similar to show later on . . .
Thanks - the B10 looks great. Good job it's Epoch 3, or I might be reaching for my Wife's handbag as well as the family jewels!
My particular fetish at the moment is the superb WW2 camouflaged items from Bachmann Liliput in HO. The flak coach and armoured train are quite exquisite. Add these to the wagons, coaches and flat wagons with an ME109 fresh from the factory, enables the display or working layout of an unusual WW2 theme.
My particular fetish at the moment is the superb WW2 camouflaged items from Bachmann Liliput in HO. The flak coach and armoured train are quite exquisite. Add these to the wagons, coaches and flat wagons with an ME109 fresh from the factory, enables the display or working layout of an unusual WW2 theme.
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You may reach for your wife's handbag but it will be her that'll be going for the family jewels ...
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It took me a while to get round to it, but here's my 'something similar'.
The Rivarossi N Gauge equivalent of that lovely monster.
Apparently its purchase set me back £8:57.
You can take a guess when that might have been as I'm not sure myself!
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For the technically curious, some of the Exif data
Focal length (35mm equivalent): 119mm
Exposure Time: 1/13 sec
Aperture:f 8
I THINK the range was about 4 feet and natural light was used.
I have cropped and shrunk the pic to a little under 25% of its original size. (from 2560 pixels wide to just 600 which is a good standard display width to use in the forum)
This is the best of a BIG bunch of BAD shots and still needed quite a bit of tarting up before I dare show it - I really will have to learn how to use this camera PROPERLY - it's (almost) wasted on me!
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However it does show what can be achieved by an incompetent amateur from a fair distance (1 - 2 m) using big originals and without use of macro.
I wonder if anyone is eagle eyed enough to pick up that the pic is actually a mirror image?
You can't tell from the number - 10001 reads the same either way!
Why would I do that you might ask.
Well . . . I wanted it to face the same direction as Dennis' pic.
Er, why not just turn the loco round then?
Because the poor little thing is missing a smoke deflector on the other side!
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The Rivarossi N Gauge equivalent of that lovely monster.
Apparently its purchase set me back £8:57.
You can take a guess when that might have been as I'm not sure myself!
For the technically curious, some of the Exif data
Focal length (35mm equivalent): 119mm
Exposure Time: 1/13 sec
Aperture:f 8
I THINK the range was about 4 feet and natural light was used.
I have cropped and shrunk the pic to a little under 25% of its original size. (from 2560 pixels wide to just 600 which is a good standard display width to use in the forum)
This is the best of a BIG bunch of BAD shots and still needed quite a bit of tarting up before I dare show it - I really will have to learn how to use this camera PROPERLY - it's (almost) wasted on me!
However it does show what can be achieved by an incompetent amateur from a fair distance (1 - 2 m) using big originals and without use of macro.
I wonder if anyone is eagle eyed enough to pick up that the pic is actually a mirror image?
You can't tell from the number - 10001 reads the same either way!
Why would I do that you might ask.
Well . . . I wanted it to face the same direction as Dennis' pic.
Er, why not just turn the loco round then?
Because the poor little thing is missing a smoke deflector on the other side!
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I also model German Epoch 1-2. I started with British OO but was lured by the superior build quality and extra features offered by Continental manufacturers. With the Continental Locos I get light and sound and far less derailment than I did with the Uk manufacturers.
Until Hornby and Bachman catch up in terms of features and build quality I am reluctant to buy their product. I was tempted by the new Hornby A3 but to bring it up to the standards of my Trix or Roco trains I would have to install a sound decoder and add weight to it which takes the cost up to a ready to run Trix or Fleischmann loco. Why give yourself all that grief?
I see in other discussion on this forum that some say the price of Continental product is outrageous but it really depends where you buy. I recently bought the Trix Henschel Wegman train form Germany and paid 500 Euros for it, I seen it for sale in an allegedly Trix/Marklin specialist place in Continental Modeller (not naming any names) in the UK for 750 quid. They must be having a laugh as this is twice what I paid. I think if you want to model Continental then buy direct from Germany as all the UK vendors I have looked at charge in pounds what you would pay in Euros from Germany.
You also get a lot more for your money in terms of sound and lighting which makes your layout come to life.
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Until Hornby and Bachman catch up in terms of features and build quality I am reluctant to buy their product. I was tempted by the new Hornby A3 but to bring it up to the standards of my Trix or Roco trains I would have to install a sound decoder and add weight to it which takes the cost up to a ready to run Trix or Fleischmann loco. Why give yourself all that grief?
I see in other discussion on this forum that some say the price of Continental product is outrageous but it really depends where you buy. I recently bought the Trix Henschel Wegman train form Germany and paid 500 Euros for it, I seen it for sale in an allegedly Trix/Marklin specialist place in Continental Modeller (not naming any names) in the UK for 750 quid. They must be having a laugh as this is twice what I paid. I think if you want to model Continental then buy direct from Germany as all the UK vendors I have looked at charge in pounds what you would pay in Euros from Germany.
You also get a lot more for your money in terms of sound and lighting which makes your layout come to life.
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For me it was more a matter that I lived in Germany for four years much have it spent in local hobby shops. I have to agree with those crazy British prices though. I thought the EU would have solved this issue.
As far as quality goes I try to take a neutral stance and feel that the British manufacturers offer a good deal for the money. Yes they are more delicate and care should be taken.
The other main reason is that I model in N Scale and that's one place where British manufacturers are way behind. The shame of it all is that British prototype (at least the steam age) is so beautiful.
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As far as quality goes I try to take a neutral stance and feel that the British manufacturers offer a good deal for the money. Yes they are more delicate and care should be taken.
The other main reason is that I model in N Scale and that's one place where British manufacturers are way behind. The shame of it all is that British prototype (at least the steam age) is so beautiful.
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I don't know if this is the right place for this link, but this site is about an excellent layout of the German Railways circa 1935 to 1945. Continental Railway
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That looks like a good layout. Is it located in Australia? I noticed the Optusnet address. I wouldn't mind checking it out when I am back in Australia.
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QUOTE (neil_s_wood @ 10 Aug 2006, 02:28) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>That looks like a good layout. Is it located in Australia? I noticed the Optusnet address. I wouldn't mind checking it out when I am back in Australia.
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In Sydney I believe, maybe you could email him and have a private viewing.
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In Sydney I believe, maybe you could email him and have a private viewing.
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Neil,
Maybe you can help him hang some catenary while you're there.
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Maybe you can help him hang some catenary while you're there.
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It would be good to see the layout but it may be a while before I go to Sydney.
Dennis, I may well offer to assist with his catenary. It would be good to practice on someone elses layout. I'll give you a hand with yours if you like.
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Dennis, I may well offer to assist with his catenary. It would be good to practice on someone elses layout. I'll give you a hand with yours if you like.
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Uhh ... thanks but no thanks.
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Well if you ever change your mind.......
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I'll remember that. I just received a special issue Eisenbahn Journal, Unter Draht.
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Dennis, are there any German rail publications which are available in English?
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None that I'm aware of.
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