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***John - the sound is set up as looping - the primary sound setup for that has to be changed to limit the # of loop cycles and that cannot be done without a lokprogrammer and some knowledge.

No matter whats done the Elite is incredibly clumsy with sound operation/ functions compared to any other brand - it will never do what is wished as the sound concerned is programmed to be playable in length (unrestricted looping) and that needs a function button that operates only as long as it is selected - every single modeller I have met who has started with an elite changed brand very fast after adopting sound.

The same problem does not happen with my own DCCconcepts ESU Duchess sound file. Aware that hornby owners may have an Elite I set it up to work properly with it in the first place (I also used more correct Duchess sounds, sans Hamiltons air pumps and with things like "wheelslip" which is a very important "duchess" sound!)

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***Hi

If you go to the ESU website, you should find the full ESU manual for the LokSound V 3.5 if it was not included with the Duchess.

If you have trouble finding it there email me or send me a PM with your direct email address and I will send it to you as a PDF file (allow me 24 hours though - its 11pm sat night here and I'm close to heading for bed).

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***Mike - you should be able to remap the function button on the Lenz so it only stays on for as long as you hold the button down - How to do that is in the Lenz manual.

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Hi David

many controllers have this ability, either as default ex factory (NCE, Digi) or as user configurable (lenz, some others).

Its almost essential in a controller now as good easy sound control is important.

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Richard

QUOTE (dwb @ 10 Jan 2009, 20:40) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>I would hazard a guess that the sound has been programmed this way by ESU because ECoS controllers have a mini joystick which acts as F2 when pushed upwards and remains on for as long as you hold it there. ESU tout this as user controllable whistle duration. As an ECoS user I wouldn't mind trying that but it's of no use to anyone else if you can't program your controller's function activity.

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*** Hi Mike. A good question to ask.

Usually its 4 chuffs per revolution for a 2 cylinder loco, 6 for a 3 cylinder and logically 8 for a 4 cylinder.

However with the Duchess, because the way the valve gear and drive is arranged with one set of gear driving another and one cylinder reinforcing the other, there are 4 double chuffs per revolution - it really sounds like 4 solid chuffs rather than 8. This is relatively common with 4 cylinder locos. (I note that two US O scale companies, Rail King and MTH who will soon release a new O scale Duchess proudly announce 8 chuffs per revolution - they are wrong - as they are with many of the loco details and livery!)

This video of Hamilton shows it pretty well (and also why wheelslip is important on a Duchess sound file!)


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