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Do modellers really want more?

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QUOTE Many modellers want more than the basic offerings by Hornby and Bachmann

Noting this comment in a DCC discussion it could make for a good general discusion topic.

Its all very well wanting more but at what price?

How many Bachmann Deltics will be sold with sound chips if they come in at the rumoured £70 above the cost of a standard model?

In terms of detailing how much more could Bachmann and Hornby offer?

They are surely at the limits now?

Running qualities cannot be bettered.

Lets accept that older models and rolling stock are having phased updates so no point in referring to older models. Code 100 track is here to stay as anything less falls apart.

Forget the finescale running gear argument. It is not suitable for the masses.

So what more can seriously be done?

And are you prepared to pay the price?

My personal view is that Hornby and Bachmann offer a value RTR mass produced product at a price and that those who want more can upgrade the product themselves to meet their specific criteria with their own money!

Read the Simon Kohler (Hornby's marketing manager) interview again. Simon makes a very valid point:-

QUOTE Customers come up and say that if we did that, or this, or something else, they would buy it. However, when you eventually produce the product, those customers who said they would buy it don't!

Happy modelling
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I too always want more especially if either Bachmann or Hornby start producing Era I or whatever you call Early locomotives. If they did then even I would start buying some.
QUOTE A quick check does indeed confirm that full spec steam locos in Europe with all of the above are £300 or more!

So that leaves us back to where we started in all of these types of threads.

BTW There must be a tariff on German locomotives (Must be a Hornby plot) in the UK because you all seem to pay more for them than anywhere else.
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I'm afraid that this topic is quickly heading south. Should I close it now or wait till it really get nasty?

I have a question, and I ask this seriously. Do most British steam locomotives have internal plumbing or is it just missing from the model? Both continental and American locomotive models seem to have a lot more detail or is this misleading?. The other question is take a look at the trucks on the Alco from PCM. They seem a lot more detailed than what I see on Hornby Diesels, is this also misleading?
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Gary said that one of the reasons he didn't like German steam engines was because of all the messy pipes, etc. He said that the british "plumbing" was internal. I was just wondering if this is true or are the details just missing.
Actually it didn't escape my attention. I was all set to buy some Britains the last time I was in London untill I found out I could get them cheaper in the US.
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