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Do modellers really want more?

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QUOTE Many modellers want more than the basic offerings by Hornby and Bachmann

Noting this comment in a DCC discussion it could make for a good general discusion topic.

Its all very well wanting more but at what price?

How many Bachmann Deltics will be sold with sound chips if they come in at the rumoured £70 above the cost of a standard model?

In terms of detailing how much more could Bachmann and Hornby offer?

They are surely at the limits now?

Running qualities cannot be bettered.

Lets accept that older models and rolling stock are having phased updates so no point in referring to older models. Code 100 track is here to stay as anything less falls apart.

Forget the finescale running gear argument. It is not suitable for the masses.

So what more can seriously be done?

And are you prepared to pay the price?

My personal view is that Hornby and Bachmann offer a value RTR mass produced product at a price and that those who want more can upgrade the product themselves to meet their specific criteria with their own money!

Read the Simon Kohler (Hornby's marketing manager) interview again. Simon makes a very valid point:-

QUOTE Customers come up and say that if we did that, or this, or something else, they would buy it. However, when you eventually produce the product, those customers who said they would buy it don't!

Happy modelling
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QUOTE (Dennis David @ 18 May 2006, 18:17) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>So that leaves us back to where we started in all of these types of threads.

BTW There must be a tariff on German locomotives (Must be a Hornby plot) in the UK because you all seem to pay more for them than anywhere else.

May have escaped your attention but we pay more for everything over here than anywhere else. Its even cheaper to imporrt a land rover from abroad than buy from a UK dealer.

Any way back to the subject matter
Lighting please oh and smoke would be nice. Detail that doesn't drop off if you stare at it too hard. Forget the metal bodies the damn things are heavy enough overall anyway but metal setail should be minimum standard on all new rtr loco's or is the fact that they did it 30 years ago reason enough to render it obsolete? Bogies that don't come apart at the seams and metal drive gears would be nice in order to help longevity especially as no one wants to supply spares these days even for production models. Sound is ok but at what cost? the bachmann announcement seems like a hastily contrived reaction to the hornby catalogue to such an extent they still don't dare put a price tag on it. I suppose after that the only thing left to make more accurate wil be the worlds first 1:76 scale weight loco
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