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Do modellers really want more?

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QUOTE Many modellers want more than the basic offerings by Hornby and Bachmann

Noting this comment in a DCC discussion it could make for a good general discusion topic.

Its all very well wanting more but at what price?

How many Bachmann Deltics will be sold with sound chips if they come in at the rumoured £70 above the cost of a standard model?


In terms of detailing how much more could Bachmann and Hornby offer?


They are surely at the limits now?


Running qualities cannot be bettered.

Lets accept that older models and rolling stock are having phased updates so no point in referring to older models. Code 100 track is here to stay as anything less falls apart.

Forget the finescale running gear argument. It is not suitable for the masses.

So what more can seriously be done?


And are you prepared to pay the price?


My personal view is that Hornby and Bachmann offer a value RTR mass produced product at a price and that those who want more can upgrade the product themselves to meet their specific criteria with their own money!


Read the Simon Kohler (Hornby's marketing manager) interview again. Simon makes a very valid point:-

http://www.modelrailforum.com/forums/index...om&page=SK-2005

QUOTE Customers come up and say that if we did that, or this, or something else, they would buy it. However, when you eventually produce the product, those customers who said they would buy it don't!

Happy modelling
Gary
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QUOTE My personal view is that Hornby and Bachmann offer a value RTR mass produced product at a priceAgree especially with regard to Bachmann.

QUOTE How many Bachmann Deltics will be sold with sound chips if they come in at the rumoured £70 above the cost of a standard model? Probably not as many as they would like. £40 to £50 more and they will sell. The Deltic may be an exception?

QUOTE In terms of detailing how much more could Bachmann and Hornby offer? The effort should go into the robustness of some of the detailing. Too many things are cheap and nasty and as a result more vunerable. Of course there are limits with this degree of fine detail, but todays offerings often fall short of acceptable.

QUOTE They are surely at the limits now? Of course not, look at US and Continental ranges.

QUOTE Running qualities cannot be bettered.Ha Ha Ha!
3 Hornby class 08/09 returned. lubrication of the offending squeal didn't solve the problem. A poor effort!
Over greasing of Bachmann gears and jerky operation of some locos.

QUOTE So what more can seriously be done?
And are you prepared to pay the price? The quality has indeed improved (classes 57, 60 and 66 for eg.), but there is more that can be done.
Pay more? If it's value for money, yes. You don't have to go to Marklin levels of build to get a much better product.
I hope competition is the key to this gradual improvement, as we will soon see with DCC fitted products.

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