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........??...Hello and Welcome to my 1st attempt at a layout.My name is David Todd, Toddy to some. dt.to others

Please feel free to post your comments/ thoughts/objections etc, am open minded, being an (ex) Geordie living down south.


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At last....!!!!I hope
Here is my take on the plan; REMEMBER I AM NEW TO THIS GAME....


1.The layout is RECTANGULAR, 5,510mm by 2,050mm (let you do the maths,I don't like "new money").

2. It has a centre well..............4280mm by 835mm.

3. so, layout boards will 610mm in width (2ft).

4. the b/boards are 4ftx2ft,inset on a support system similar to Willies layout....

At the top of the diagram is Dover Priory station as in the real thing.Photo later. Bottom of diagram is Dover Town Yard,not the real thing.Photo later.

Ok, The track will be Peco concrete for the main running lines and wood for the yard, code; 100. Pointwork Peco wood code ;100.except for the scissors crossing
which is shinarho code;100.wood. NO SETTRACK will be laid. Will have to decide on the options of the length of points for visual and practicality.
On the upper right of the dia.is a double slip,Ive taken modeller's licence here, as there was a large junction here,called Hawkesbury st.jtn.
It ran off to the night ferry terminal and Dover (Marine)Western Docks Stn. you will see that from a 1937 o/s.plan I will post here.(copyright was paid for).

You will all get the jist of it as "WE" cobble it together, think of it as a "Club Layout"...but.. you don't have to pay sub's, you can visit, comment,nor not, as your whim, if you are local, in the area, or kicking your heel's before waiting for a ferry to France,(take the train), send me a pm in advance and have a brew,time is my own.
Those of you doing a day trip from Aus,n.z.or usa. will be a bit pushed for time as I live closer to France than I do to London....

So back to the .....plot.....Whole layout to be Dcc. It is based at home in my internal garage and boasts central heating(2.rads). No cars allowed.
Am on a budget of £100 per month out of my medical pension,so no deep pockets,...

Ive 2.x 50020. Ecos/esu command stations,

1.will do Priory station and double roundies. 1.will do Town Yard. (over kill?).

also 1.4amp booster (Esu). which will supply points (Richards cobalt's)46. and signals.stn and yard ltg.

Eventually, nasty block detection
or does it go in whilst building (missed that bit)

as Kal (trainsandtrees) has advised,"you can only slave 1 ecos off another. Not run in tandem".(yet).
Yes I have that awful solid 2.5mm house wiring stuff awaiting deployment for the main buss and 7/0.32 for the droppers,2 pairs for every metre length of track..over kill....points, I have a mix of long med.short streamline ones insul.and electro.have yet to fit droppers to all of these.( will practice on old settrack ones.
The layout will.. be run by myself (or grandchildren when older) or anyone who has a mind to turn up,semi/fully computer.operational enventually,yard will stay manual.
OH.!!bye the way,the tight curves,bottom right of dia.are 2nd radius 18in. and are the Dover 10chain curve.you'll see it from the o/s dia and real photos when posted. I do hope there are real drivers out there,who drive this line daily and can throw in.......
Dover Priory is also a "Reversal Station",am sure someone would love to tell us what that is....
In the dim past, Dover had 2 stations and 2 railway companies,now forms a loop, effectively to London, 1 on the"east" of the county (bye-passing those
who live on the Ise of Thanet) Canterbury,Medway Towns,London Waterloo. 1.west of the county,Ashford,Tunbridge Wells,London,Charring Cross.

ok..am off for tea and take/post some photos of what "we" are dealing with, ALL COWARDS are obliged to take 1 step forward, others can cover their eyes.

...dt...
 

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Above,is shakespeare tunnel


Above,is cliff backdrop to the old town yard, was all removed by the end of 1995

above,is the Dover 10 chain curve.

OOPs ! house insurance policy.
 

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Ah David, now I see what you are doing, and very impressive it looks as well. Accordingly I look forward to seeing this develop.

QUOTE (David Todd @ 29 Dec 2011, 21:33) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>You will all get the jist of it as "WE" cobble it together, think of it as a "Club Layout"...but.. you don't have to pay sub's, you can visit, comment,nor not, as your whim, if you are local, in the area, or kicking your heel's before waiting for a ferry to France,(take the train), send me a pm in advance and have a brew,time is my own.
Now there's an offer....

QUOTE (David Todd @ 29 Dec 2011, 21:33) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>as I live closer to France than I do to London....
Glad to see you're getting the hang of the humour...now about the penguins.

I like the modern photos, and the insurance policy


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"now about the penguins."#

Sorry have'nt seen any here on the mainland
 

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Thanks, for your post's.....A1A A1A and 7113.
I also spend time as a volunteer ranger at Samphire Hoe a mile outside Dover, (West-away from the isle of thanet)
The newest part of the uk ,built from the spoilt excavated from the building of the Channel Tunnel.
200-300ft cliffs and train lines on one side, sea and ships on the other and an office to make tea in, the site is owned by Eurotunnel...Google it..most interesting,the construction that is....it has been a nature reserve for about 10 years now and open
to the public.....
 

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QUOTE I live closer to France than I do to London....

Indeed. Each time we've been walking past south foreland lighthouse, my wife's phone tells her she's _in_ France. I thought the Martello towers were supposed to stop that sort of thing?

David
 

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QUOTE (dwb @ 29 Dec 2011, 23:02) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>Indeed. Each time we've been walking past south foreland lighthouse, my wife's phone tells her she's _in_ France. I thought the Martello towers were supposed to stop that sort of thing?
Which reminds me of an old Bonny Tyler song............


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"Martello towers were supposed to stop that sort of thing?"

Nope! But yet another History lesson,another time though....
I am sure its triggered by the Thanet Islanders,methinks they maybe decendants of the French.. enough..!!

Must post photos of my decrapide handiwork for others to sleep on and yet others to wake up to on the otherside of this
planet (no NOT Thanet)


Had my tea and Kendal mint cake (said in the tin "to be consumed by penquins only)..???

ok...let hope i don't loose the photos again.......
 

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QUOTE (David Todd @ 29 Dec 2011, 23:50) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>I am sure its triggered by the Thanet Islanders,methinks they maybe decendants of the French.. enough..!!
Nonsense - it was those Danes wot dun it guv...no Martello towers in those days.


QUOTE (David Todd @ 29 Dec 2011, 23:50) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>Must post photos of my decrapide handiwork for others to sleep on and yet others to wake up to on the otherside of this planet (no NOT Thanet)

I don't know where you mean...


QUOTE (David Todd @ 29 Dec 2011, 23:50) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>Had my tea and Kendal mint cake (said in the tin "to be consumed by penquins only)..???
You really are getting the hang of this!!

But seriously I am looking forward to the photos - probably over the morning coffee.

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above is the top left of the plan

above is the bottom right of the plan,the dover 10 chain curve

Above is bottom centre of the plan Dover town Yard to be revised...





above are few Santa presents of local collieries near to dover.One of these went for £20.03p
on ebay today,you can buy a new release ltd edition from greg in Ashford for £10.50p !!

The rest of the photos can wait till morn..ing...its that now !! Have to be up for my mate Pete the Parcels (ROYAL mail).
TO TAKE DELIVERY of code 60 for the 3rd rail.......and a Richards cobalt template fixing thingy...

That'all for now Folks night
 

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OK, I'm still up, but only just!

QUOTE (David Todd @ 30 Dec 2011, 00:18) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>

A question - is that a 74 I see? If so I shall have to take you to task, they only ran on the western section out of Waterloo.

Off to the land of nod now.

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That's the reason I put it there to see if anyone WAS taking notice,Was on ebay,delivered yesterday morning.
Just missed buying the 71 he had for sale, but got the Replica MLv.I hope to have all 10 of these in their different liveries.
This is the nearest i will get to steam along with the coal wagons.
I have a couple of photos of the 71s in the Dover yard.the real one that is...
I have read that the men who worked the yard were a breed apart from others as the still original Southern concrete seawall was only the only protection the yard had against the s,w, storms that can batter this coastline.
Is the Isle of Thanet below sealevel...??
 

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half the layout plan showing the well down to the Dover 10 chain curve

the other half of the plan showing on the left Shakespeare tunnel,on the right Priory tunnel(into the meter cupboard).


This is the Dover o/s map,shewing the Dover 10 chain curve, Hawkesbury st.Jnt. Town yard,
ferry terminal and roads leading off the page southish to Dover (Marine)Western Docks Stn.
The plan i found in Dover library ref. section i was huge,up to Priory Stn and nearly to Folkestone.
Due to copywrite laws I was only allowed 1 a4 section,hence what you see is what I got..
But I have someone on the case to try and complete the picture.......
Oh, almost forgot...all the track work you see here was lifted in 1995ish,what remain is the10 chain curve,with a kink at
the top where the junction was.
All the main lines now have been relaid in the past 2 years and all the cliff tunnels re-lined (twice !!)..
I Think if you google Saxon Shore Way,you should see recent photo of the main line Dover To Folkestone..Very expensive
Bit of track........
Next instalment...maybe ...When The Kendal Mintcake, invasion of the PENGUINS or Pete the Parcels Awakens me....
 

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QUOTE (David Todd @ 29 Dec 2011, 21:42) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
OOPs ! house insurance policy.
Very effective - was it Robert Morely who said "a dog is a set of sharp teeth mounted on four legs" ?

QUOTE (David Todd @ 29 Dec 2011, 22:46) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>"now about the penguins."#

Sorry have'nt seen any here on the mainland

There's a few in Thanet - one on my workshop roof, one by the pond & only four left on St.Laurent...............

QUOTE (dwb @ 29 Dec 2011, 23:02) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>Indeed. Each time we've been walking past south foreland lighthouse, my wife's phone tells her she's _in_ France. I thought the Martello towers were supposed to stop that sort of thing?

David

Just don't make or recieve a call (it's quite common on Vodaphone on the coast in this neck of the woods).

QUOTE (David Todd @ 29 Dec 2011, 23:50) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>"Martello towers were supposed to stop that sort of thing?"

Nope! But yet another History lesson,another time though....
I am sure its triggered by the Thanet Islanders,methinks they maybe decendants of the French.. enough..!!

Must post photos of my decrapide handiwork for others to sleep on and yet others to wake up to on the otherside of this
planet (no NOT Thanet)


Had my tea and Kendal mint cake (said in the tin "to be consumed by penquins only)..???

ok...let hope i don't loose the photos again.......

Nah - Danes, & as soon as we can get our boat off that plinth the council put it on we can go home !
 

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QUOTE (David Todd @ 30 Dec 2011, 01:41) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>Next instalment...maybe ...When The Kendal Mintcake, invasion of the PENGUINS or Pete the Parcels Awakens me....

On a (nearly) serious note, I like the plan & the progress seen in the pictures.

Well, at least one Penguin would like to make the trip and have a look see, early in the New Year - you provide the tea, I'll provide the biscuits - Penguins, of course (but I get to have the blue ones, always the blue ones..........)
 

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QUOTE (David Todd @ 30 Dec 2011, 00:56) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>That's the reason I put it there to see if anyone WAS taking notice,Was on ebay,delivered yesterday morning.
Just missed buying the 71 he had for sale, but got the Replica MLv.I hope to have all 10 of these in their different liveries.
See - I am observant...

QUOTE (David Todd @ 30 Dec 2011, 00:56) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>Is the Isle of Thanet below sealevel...??

Only parts of Margate old town. (see 1953 flooding)

QUOTE (David Todd @ 29 Dec 2011, 22:46) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>"now about the penguins."#

Sorry have'nt seen any here on the mainland

QUOTE (Brian Considine @ 30 Dec 2011, 07:26) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>There's a few in Thanet - one on my workshop roof, one by the pond & only four left on St.Laurent...............
and one in the waterfall....

QUOTE (Brian Considine @ 30 Dec 2011, 07:26) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>Nah - Danes, & as soon as we can get our boat off that plinth the council put it on we can go home !


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QUOTE (Brian Considine @ 30 Dec 2011, 07:33) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>Well, at least one Penguin would like to make the trip and have a look see, early in the New Year - you provide the tea, I'll provide the biscuits - Penguins, of course (but I get to have the blue ones, always the blue ones..........)
Well, #2 will come along - if you're offering and I'm free.

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