neil_s_wood· Premium Member
I must admit I am holding back on ordering a new system until I hear what it has to offer. I only hope it's not another anticlimax like the Hornby DCC effort.
This is something I'm finding out as I go through my backlog. The split frames are too much hassle.Very often some of the 100 loco's you mention so are old, junk and not suitable for conversion. (typically old tender drives and some open frame motors).
AgreedAnother point if you buy cheap decoders don't expect good DCC performance. It stands to reason that if you buy a good DCC setup your going to compromise performance by buying budget decoders
Well that's what you're going to have to make your decision on. If you want a flash car you have top pay for it. If you want a flash rail system why would you expect to get it for nothing?Even on your own figures the cost of DCC is very large - bearing in mind that a couple of Gaugemasters and some switrches will do the job for perhaps £200 (and a lot of time)
When the "DCC premium" is down below £1000, it starts to be a geniune option
This may well be the case, and who could miss an opportunity like that.We don't know what Dynamis will do in practice, but I bet Barwell have read previous postings on here, picked up "NMRA compliant" as a good line to throw at Hornby, and stuck it on their leaflet
As stated previously Hornby claim 8 functions plus lights for the elite so unless they added 10 yesterday your information is incorrect and the difference is far from modest.Hornby claim (I think from memory) 18 functions on the Elite . Bachmann are promising 20. The difference in functions is only modest
What we have said repeatedly is you get what you pay for. So please keep the fiction writing for somewhere more appropriate. A 200 quid loco from Germany comes with very high specs including digital sound. You really do have some issue with facts don't you.Please don't trot out the line "everything in Britain is a rip off so stop complaining and get used to paying through the nose£" . Especially when you and dbclass50 have been arguing on this forum that British loco prices should double to £200 a loco in line with Germany...
You deliberately misquoted me. "Their" referred to Bachmann and Hornby as was apparent in the comment. Please don't resort to making things up. This seems to be a trend.The quote was from your own posting earlier in the thread.
They do starter systems which can be bought from other countries. It is your choice if you want to limit where you buy from.Dgitrax do not sell a budget system in the UK . The Zephyr start set costs about £150 from the main importer, and hardly anyone else sells Digitrax. This isn't budget. Nor is Flieshmann - apparently their system costs about £300 !!
Isn't that the truth. Why are you even considering DCC if you aren't prepared to pay for it?If you want budget go to a pound shop.
To be fair to Gary, he didn't start this current spat. Ravenser reignited this by misquoting people and applying his creative fiction writing skills to the subject under debate.However, this was not good enough for Gary. Out he came like an Exorcet Missile trotting out the same old entry level/full featured system rubbish attacking the "experts" who he again wrongly accuses of saying that all entry level systems are not worth considering.
Very nice Dennis.Got my eyes on a Boxster though so it's all academic. Not exactly a family car but we end up using my wife's car anyway for outings.
That is true. However you don't want to buy too far down the scale as you may regret it and definitely will want to upgrade and expand your system. This is why;I am extremely confident that there will be some very attractive digital deals for UK railway modellers in 2007 and this will encourage large numbers of UK modellers to look at digital seriously.
If on the other hand you only want a simple system fine. Expect an amps limitation, limit on the addresses that the system can use. If you have sound and other features they may not work, with the next generation of feature packed sound decoders
Yet again this is wrong. You can buy these separately from most German model rail shops for far less than this.Roco Multimaus (only available as part of a loss-leader HO trainset , from a small number of retailers, price somewhere between about £110-130 for trainset