I'm afraid the flyer is all anyone has to go on where Bachmann Dynamis is concerned. I gather the reps on the stand at Warley were declining to give any further information
I don't feel this is enough to allow anyone to draw any conclusions about Dynamis , let alone to conclude that it is better than the Elite will be , bearing in mind that we haven't seen that in the flesh either (The Select is clearly Hornby's trainset controller )
QUOTE You only get what you pay for and if you do not pay the money you will end up with an inadequate system
This sounds to me very like "if you don't pay £250 for a DCC system it won't be any good". You can drop the price of these systems without losing capability because the same system generally sells for 2/3rds the price in the US .
At £250 for a system and £24 for a decoder, DCC is not for the mass market. At £75 -100 for a system and £7-50 to £10 per decoder it may well be
QUOTE If Bachmann and Hornby did not provide DCC starter sets then people may start to look at German Trix Maerklin, Fleischmann and Roco starts sets.
This is far too optimistic . German brands are only available through a few specialist retailers in the UK. They aren't in the high street. Hornby are more worried about kids not buying trainsets at all
QUOTE While their [Trix Maerklin, Fleischmann and Roco ] DCC attempts seem pathetic to the DCC enthusiast,
If this isn't rubbishing the Multimaus, the high priced Flieshmann control centre and the Marklin /Motorola systems. I'd be grateful of clarification
QUOTE By basing your decision to buy based soley on budget you maty regret buying an incompatible inadequate system whic you will turf after a few months. You will find that this arguement was advocated by many others.
Are you saying the Bachmann EZ system is "incompatible with DCC"?? We are not simply discussing the Select here - I'm talking general principles. I agree this "aim high" is the mantra of the DCC enthusiast. I am sick of being told by the Usual Suspect at the club that my locos will only run properly if I fit every one with a Lenz Gold
Would you also describe the NCE PowerCab as a QUOTE incompatible inadequate system whic you will turf after a few months ??
To be clear - I'm suggesting we are seeing, and should welcome, the emergence of a "mid price" bracket of DCC systems at around £100 all up in the UK. Systems falling into this bracket are the Multimaus (though you can't buy it directly in the UK) the PowerCab, the Elite, and Dynamis. All offering 4 digit systems with full programming, point control, plenty of functions , consisting, but compromising in the area of sheer amps, number of cabs supported , feedback and other high end features.
We can't argue about whether the Elite works reliably cos we haven't seen it yet. Nor can we be sure Dynamis will be bug free just cos Bachmann say it will be
Below this band there is the budget price bracket - entries the old Lokmaus (defunct) , Bachmann EZ with its severe limits , and the Select. I don't regret the existance of this bracket , though I'm not myself going to buy this low down the scale
The compatibility issue has been heavily overplayed on this forum by MMD and yourself . The facts , from repeated first hand reports , are that the Select is not designed to do anything other than change the decoder address, and this it does with Lenz, ZTC (ie Digitrax) and Hornby decoders. It looks as if there is an issue with TCS because it looks as if Hornby have given the Select only one programming mode out of 4 . They have explicitly stated the Elite will support all 4 programming modes (I'm no expert here, I'm quoting)
The decoder is more of a problem because it won't read back , although it seems some folk have managed to program the CVs. Until I'm confident it can be addressed succesfully and will take addresses over 99, sadly I won't be buying a Hornby decoder
These look to me like technical glitches from a new entrant to the field launching first products , not evidence that this is not DCC equipment. No one has found any existing player who has developed/licenced Hornby's system so it looks like they have developed a DCC system themselves
The existing players have not taken DCC into the mass market, and most show little interest in doing so. I welcome the emergence of new players who are willing to produce affordable DCC. But I don't think their systems are what you are looking for.