1. Elite and 4 digit addressing:
QUOTE The chap on the Hornby stand today [at Warley] seemed quite helpful, and when I asked about addressing with the Elite he assured me that it can use 255 addresses. THOSE 255 ADDRESSES CAN BE ANYTHING BETWEEN 0 AND 9999.
The restriction to 255 is how many addresses it can store. (thats twice what a set 100 can manage, and SIXTEEN times what a ZTC511 can handle
Posted on another forum - the poster is owner of a large wellknown DCC exhibition layout (XpressNet system), a committee member of one of the specialist societies and a regular on that forum.
Immediately below from Graham Plowman:
I should correct myself as I miswrote my comment and ended up giving the wrong meaning.
Elite is full 4 digit, 1 to 9999. It has a limit of storing up to 255 loco addresses/configurations in its 'database' which I believe is the same as the Len 100.
2. Systems and Dynamis.
We now have 4 systems available/announced which are a lot lot cheaper than £200, support 4 digit addressing, point /accessory control, extensive programming and substantial numbers of functions:
- NEC PowerCab (Available for £95 all up incl power supply from 2 UK suppliers )
- Hornby Elite (not yet available, advertised by many retailers below £100)
- Bachmann Dynamis ( not yet available , Bachmann indicating price very competitive)
- Roco Multimaus (only available as part of a loss-leader HO trainset , from a small number of retailers, price somewhere between about £110-130 for trainset)
SCC's price list shows the Digitrax Zephyr at £145 for a starter set with transformer. This is not a competitive price , and Digitrax's UK availability and profile is pretty low
The Lenz Compact (£130) is only 2 digit, supports limited functions, and general opinion seems to be it's main function is to convince you you need Set100 (The stupid thing is that Lenz look like they've got a pretty attractive mid price system if they'd only sell the multimaus as a stand alone system through normal channels)
This defines the products competing against Dynamis and the likely price point. We have very few details of Dynamis, but we can start to see what it needs to offer and how it might be aimed from the products it will be competiting with.
As a side comment , it's no longer true that you have to pay £200+ to get a system that isn't severely crippled
3. Target market
I am definitely in the target market for these systems .
I'm involved with a protracted club project (uses Lenz Set100) and about to start building a small layout (9' long) which will use DMUs being acquired /built mainly for the club project . I need a system at home for programming , to save me carting stuff up to the club for decoder instalation.I have a Lokmaus2, bought for £30 , which has just blown up 2 decoders while attempting to program them (apparently the Lokmaus programs at full voltage) . A cheap programming system that destroys decoders ain't cheap
I do not want to build a control panel - so easy point control is needed (That rules out Set100 - and I don't much like the LH100 as a handheld)
I'm not prepared to pay more than about £100 for a system . I'm committeed to custom built point work , and therefore also Tortoises, I'll want all of 156, 108, and 101 and I need to replace the computer in the next 6 months. Systems costing £200-350 are out. I don't need sound - speakers and DMUs don't mix. Nor do I need 999 cabs and masses of amps, or computer control
A lot of people in the club have bought powerCabs and even hardened Lenz users are impressed . We have a number of Lenz users in the club , and a couple of Gaugemaster. No-one knows anything about Digitrax, or has seen a Multimaus in the flesh
Unfortunately the PowerCab isn't compatible with the club project. Hence interest in the Elite (or even Multimaus). I need a system by mid Feb (if only for programming) so that rules out Dynamis for me
Neil may be in the target market, but it sounds like he wants a top end system
MMAD and dbclass50 are established power users with existing top end systems from other brands. They definitely aren't Dynamis' (or Hornby's) target market