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Hi Guys, Back into modelling after 40 years and decided to go DCC. Have gone for the ESU EcOs but having problems. I have set up a programming track being a metre length of track. Connected the prog track output to the track. I have set up the new loco as per manual but nothing happens. When I touch the arrow over track symbol the 08 shunter edges forward a couple of jerks. If i go to the Programming Decoder and do a read again the shunter jerks a couple of times. The first time I read the CV 1 it read 77. Is this the loco address? After setting the new loco to 77 I did have the shunter moving backwards and forwards. Today when I have come back to carry on I have been unable to move the shunter and it says error when it reads.
After a year of gutting and insulating/decorating garage and baseboard preparation it is frustrating to find this problem and not sure if it is me or the command station is faulty.

Any help will be much appreciated.
 

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I was expecting to use 3 but didn't have any sign of response. When I read the CV 1 as 77 and using the ID 77 then there was delayed reaction at first them I had it responding. Went merrily to bed thinking I had cracked it but nothing today. The 08 shunter is a hornby so I assume a Hornby decoder. It was bought unboxed as it was from a freight set so nothing but the shunter came. Have a similar Jinty but not tried that as don't want to damage 2 decoders.
 

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The read CV from Advance screen. Just tried it and says Decoder does not support NMRA Direct Mode.
When it checked the other types the shunter shot off the programme track
 

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Think there is beginners problems as well. Have gone back to the advanced and read the decoder. Before I didn't set up the type and putting Generic NMRA for the shunter I get
Manufacturer: unknown
recognised Decoder: Generic NMRA
No of CV's: 62

Have put the Jinty on and the read is

Manufacturer: Atlas Model Railroad Products
recognised Decoder: Generic NMRA
No of CV's: 62.

These were both read putting 3 as the selected loco and then removing one and adding the other.
having given this info the activity bar only shows 11% but goes no further after 5 minutes of waiting.

Neither move when you try and control them as loco 3.

Rob Where do you get your TCS decoders a quick web trawl shows £18 to £24?

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I have noticed after many reads it is random to saying not NMRA compatible to manuf unknown to giving a manufacturer.

Will purchase some TCS decoders and see how it goes. These look faily early decoders as the class 08 body removal is different to the description currently available.

Thanks for all your help and will let you know how it goes when I get the TCS decoders.

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Received some TCS decoders today and when I went to re-chip the Jinty & Cl08 found that both loco's had 4 pin decoders plus the suppression capacitor is still across the motor.

Have tried a Hornby Royal Scot I recently purchased and can control on 3 but as soon as read in advance screen cannot control until I reset it. Cannot change address. Also when I go to programming screen it never changes from read. Better (marginally ) than the older Hornby decoders but still seems to be a major problem with the Hornby Decoders.

Fitted an 8F with a TCS decoder, controlled on 3, changed address and consisently controls.

Go to Programme screen and try to read CV's but never goes from read, so back off to read manual again.

Thanks for all your help.

See from another forum the Sound Duchess has reputedly the Loksound decoder is this correct and has anyone successfully used it with the ECoS?
 
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