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frustrating fleischmann dcc issue

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hey folks ...

as posted elsewhere, my baseboards are ready! ... track planning is in full swing just now to see whats possible in the space i have ...

however over the past year, iv been busy acquiring equipment so i have most of the things i need to start building and running my railway!

i knew from the start that i wanted dcc to run the layout and switch points. i knew i liked the console type controller too and i always liked german equipment!.

so i bought the fleischmann twin center and the twin control. i also have a profil boss to use as a handheld/walkabout unit which im told works very well with the twin centre.

but at the scottish model rail show, talking to experts on the brand, they tell me that fleischmann are dropping the twin centre and control and adopting the roco - maus system. the problem is - they are not compatible with each other ... one uses loco-net, the other uses express net for the components to talk to each other!. grrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrr.

the main difference for me as a user is that the roco-maus is capable of operating up to about 20 digital functions, the twin centre is limited to 8. but for n-scale, 8 seems to be sufficient given that there isnt many sound equipped locos in n gauge like there is in 00.

so do i stick with the fleischmann system now that iv invested in a twin centre, twin control and profi-boss (about £600 of controller lol) or do i switch to another controller now and cut my losses?

problem is that whatever is good today is outdated in 6-12months time and so any system bought today will be ousted in 12 months time by something else!.

do i just be happy with what iv got? ... thoughts / advice pls!
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***Fleischmann are not rebadged Digitrax - the loconet is an under license issue.

AFAIK train navigation is totally in-house and not supported outside FL - if you want it, buy it now as its no longer eitherproduced or supported by FL. Littfinski daten technik MAY have items which are compatible though.

If the core of the system was FMZ I'd advise dumping it - that really is a "dead duck" .... but the current/just dropped FLM system is OK DCC wise, if a little less than state of the art... basically I think you are right to continue with the controllers as they are. For a time ebay many be a source of other items you need, but prices will probably grow with rarity.

For everything other than loco driving forget FLM items - use something from a specialised DCC brand thats likely to stay around!

Things like the demise of FL digital are the reason why I always advise modellers to avoid ANY "train brand DCC" - the train brands busines is selling trains and they ONLY get involved in digital as accessory business to help them sell more locos short term - so when it becomes inconvenient, the digital gets dropped or changed to suit their "train marketing current need"!

Zero one, arnold digital, FL and the Marklin system are good relatively recent examples of train brands dropping proprietary systems after thousands were sold... and it leaves modellers out in the cold: Sometimes they are lucky for a while... for example - where would thousands of modellers be now if ESU had not taken on support for the marklin digital system that was dropped!

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**TWG, Thanks for that info - I have learned something new - my EU source had misinformed me.

DB ice 3 - sorry to misinform you


QUOTE (TWG @ 2 Mar 2009, 22:50) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>The Train Navigation system is made by Uhlenbrock and is sold by them under the name LISSY, so unless Uhlenbrock go out of business it is likely to be available for the foreseeable future.

The system is clever. You can download the manual in English from the Uhlenbrock website to see what it can do.

It has 2 main disadvantages: it is a bit complicated to set up and it it is expensive. I use it for a shuttle, which works very well; the transmitter sends not only the loco address but also a train category, so that actions are set off either by a particular loco or locos or by categories of trains such as push pull or multiple units.

If I wanted extensive automation I would probably choose computer control.
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