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Are Hornby the first to deliberately design a DCC system to be non standard, non interchangeable, non compatible, ?. I remember Gary stating to me specifically we should trust Hornby, well on the current evidence there are several types of venomous reptile I'd trust more than Hornby with DCC specifications. The whole concept of DCC and standards it appears, have deliberately flouted . I hope the NMRA publicly condemn the system.

 

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Why would I want to waste £10 on a decoder with no feed back just to prove a point, I was hoping you would donate one Gary ! Then we can do the Digitrax test. MRC decoders have had a bit of reputation in the past
I recall a batch which were impossible to program with a Digtrax chef and with an Atlas Commander (lenz) Compak and with a computer setup using the old PR1. I cannot comment on the current quality of MRC decoders but I haven't read too many negatives since the launch of the Prodogy in the UK.
 

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QUOTE How do TCS, Digitrax, MRC. NCE and others get on with Lenz? question
Is there a devide between European product and American product? question

Excluding MRC I've used decoders from the other manufacturers with no problems, this isn't going to save the day by trying to imagine all decoders are as incompatible as Hornby's. Further read this:
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From Adrian Hall as posted yesterday on the DCC-UK forum Nothing yet from Hornby although Simon did promise to get back to me when his technical chaps had looked at the issue. I understand that Phil Grainger is trying to arrange to get a couple of MC2's to Simon for him to test with. I await a reply in eager anticipation.

In the meantime, the word on the grapevine is that at least one major retailer has removed all their Select units from the shelves and returned them to Hornby. Several others are refusing to stock them until the problems are sorted.

In general terms it seems as though many people have found many problems with the units. This seems to boil down to the fact that the DCC output from the Select is both erratic and suffers badly from signal spikes.

It has got to the stage that a couple of my friends in the trade are now more confused about DCC than ever before. With no help or advice coming from Hornby and with the inability of the Select to operate other decoder makes they can now only sell Hornby decoders to the customers who have already bought the Hornby Digital sets. But then we come to the problem that their decoders will not take the current draw
of some of their models e.g. the Duchess. When Hornby were asked that question they did not seem to be aware that they needed more powerful decoders for some of their models. So, some customers who have purchased Hornby equipment cannot then use other Hornby equipment with it. See what I mean about confusion. What can the poor retailer, who is very unlikely to be a DCC expert, do!

To my mind until these problems are sorted, the Select is only good enough to be a trainset power unit and, like the old Lima trainsets, you would not run even a small layout with such a power unit.

Hardly a successful product launch when retailers are removing the product from sale


I think the important observation is Folks are more confused about DCC than before and this is really sad. Here was the golden opportunity and it's been stuffed by inept opportunism. Hornby simply have to correct these failings and get folks on board with a workable DCC system that is seen to be reliable, compatible and workable. Also decoders that are programmable,and compatible with other systems.
 

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The Lord Haw Haw of Hornby DCC has spoken. Do you really believe your own waffle ?.

On Saturday I was speaking to a major retailer who has four retail outlets and a significant mail order / internet business. Hornby DCC came into the conversation, he said he had a large pile of Hornby Selects and they were being returned. He stated they will not be stocking Hornby DCC until the problems were resolved.
 
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