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Gaugemaster prodigy and Hornby decoders

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After visiting my local model shop and talking to one of the owners about various bits and bobs he mentioned that the Prodigy had been withdrawn from sale as they had found an issue between it and the Hornby Decoders (issue not fault). Apparently the Hornby decoder frequency is out of the range of the prodigy and they are having to change a chip in the controllers to expand the frequency range of the dcc signal they use to enable it to work with the hornby chips.

Can anybody also in the trade confirm this as he has tried ordering one for a customer and they have been given a lead time of 2-3 weeks before they will be available again.

Maybe this could explain other issues we have seen with controllers and Hornby chips?

They are very well up on DCC by the way.

Thanks Darren
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QUOTE (Gary @ 16 Jan 2007, 17:05) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>Why should other makers have to change to suit Marklin and German DCC?

Can you explain exactly what "German DCC" is Gary please ?
Gary - you are absolutely priceless !

Do you have a feeling that Hornby are victims of their own success?
If success means retailers returning new stock pehaps the word success has been redifined !


Far from Hornby launching a system that nearly everybody here said would be limited in its use to Hornby customers it does seem that everybody in the wider DCC community is using Hornby product.
Well, I know many, many people personally & via the internet who are most definatly in the "DCC Commuity" & apart from a few people her, including yourself don't know anyone using Hornby DCC kit in any shape or form.


Has this take up taken Hornby by surprise I wonder?
Are we talking about "take up" or "return" here ?

If there is only one issue with one console (and it is yet to be determined where the issue lies) then you have to say that given that Hornby are the latest entrant to the world of DCC they have actually done pretty well!
Up until Hornby DCC became available there was the odd issue here & there with compatability, now there seem to be many compatabilities, the main common denominator being Hornby !


No other company in the UK has stirred up DCC like Hornby and everybody is now talking DCC. Formerly it was a backwater subject among a small band of dedicated followers in the UK and now it is almost mainstream.
This is probably the only correct statement in the whole post !
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What's that banging in the background I can hear ?

Ah - it's Gary banging the Hornby drum again.

To be honest I was going to reply in depth to your thread Gary but Gordon has beaten me to it & I agree with everything he says. I can only add a couple of comments.

I would not buy a Hornby basic decoder - 2 digit address is no good to me - I do not have to buy one to try it - the spec tells me.

Yes, I have made negative remarks about the Select/decoder regarding the limitations,- this will not stop me trying a Sapphire when it's available.

No, I have not ignored the happy Select owners - if the system does what all they want then all the best to them.

The main problems seem to be when you start mixing DCC gear - there are very few issues using (in my experience) Lenz, Roco, Digitrax, ESU, Fleischmann, Uhlenbrook, Zimo & Gaugemaster. The problems seem to be when you introduce Hornby into the fold.

You did mention that someone had "the guts" to go out & buy a Hornby decoder - good point - how about you having "the guts" to directly answer my points then ?

I won't hold my breath for answer(s).
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These ones Gary ;

1) I would not buy a Hornby basic decoder - 2 digit address is no good to me - I do not have to buy one to try it - the spec tells me.

2) Yes, I have made negative remarks about the Select/decoder regarding the limitations,- this will not stop me trying a Sapphire when it's available.

3) No, I have not ignored the happy Select owners - if the system does what all they want then all the best to them.

4) The main problems seem to be when you start mixing DCC gear - there are very few issues using (in my experience) Lenz, Roco, Digitrax, ESU, Fleischmann, Uhlenbrook, Zimo & Gaugemaster. The problems seem to be when you introduce Hornby into the fold.


Thanks for responding though.
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