Someone's got to ask the obvious question. Why are there so many doors?
Good luck with the project.
Robert
Good luck with the project.
Robert
Grange Halt
yes, FINALLY, we have now completed our move to Somerset and after 3 months I have completed all the jobs about the house and can start to get the workshop ready to lay some track. 2 pictures to get you started, the workshop is 15 x 7 and needs to be insulated, I should start that this week. I'm not sure how often I will get to post progress pictures but I shall try to keep up to date.
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Well spotted Robert, the previous owner had chopped them up to use them as some sort of insulation. I shall be removing them and using celotex
Dave
Dave
The Brian Rix railway perhaps?
QUOTE (Dave c @ 17 Aug 2014, 20:41) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>yes, FINALLY, we have now completed our move to Somerset and after 3 months I have completed all the jobs about the house and can start to get the workshop ready to lay some track. 2 pictures to get you started, the workshop is 15 x 7 and needs to be insulated, I should start that this week. I'm not sure how often I will get to post progress pictures but I shall try to keep up to date.
Looks well built but being wooden, insulation is a must but remember you'll also need some ventilation as well.
The unfortunate thing about these sheds is the fact they always put the doors centrally, whereas if they were offset. it would be a lot easier to prevent draughts and dust getting in!
Don't forget doors and windows (and the floor) may also need insulating and it might be an idea to ensure you have more than enough powerpoints before insulating as trying to remember where the wiring goes could be a problem later.
Hugh
Looks well built but being wooden, insulation is a must but remember you'll also need some ventilation as well.
The unfortunate thing about these sheds is the fact they always put the doors centrally, whereas if they were offset. it would be a lot easier to prevent draughts and dust getting in!
Don't forget doors and windows (and the floor) may also need insulating and it might be an idea to ensure you have more than enough powerpoints before insulating as trying to remember where the wiring goes could be a problem later.
Hugh
QUOTE (conmaira @ 19 Aug 2014, 20:24) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>Looks well built but being wooden, insulation is a must but remember you'll also need some ventilation as well.
The unfortunate thing about these sheds is the fact they always put the doors centrally, whereas if they were offset. it would be a lot easier to prevent draughts and dust getting in!
Don't forget doors and windows (and the floor) may also need insulating and it might be an idea to ensure you have more than enough powerpoints before insulating as trying to remember where the wiring goes could be a problem later.
Hugh
Yep, definitely insulate. I'll be building my own timber framed shed from scratch and will put the door near to a corner. As for wiring, I'll be having all wiring in plastic conduit on the internal walls, so that it's easy to get at and no danger of drilling or screwing/nailing through it... been there, done that.
To help stop draughts and insects I'll be cladding mine with fc sheeting. It's quick and easy and can be painted to keep it looking good.
The unfortunate thing about these sheds is the fact they always put the doors centrally, whereas if they were offset. it would be a lot easier to prevent draughts and dust getting in!
Don't forget doors and windows (and the floor) may also need insulating and it might be an idea to ensure you have more than enough powerpoints before insulating as trying to remember where the wiring goes could be a problem later.
Hugh
Yep, definitely insulate. I'll be building my own timber framed shed from scratch and will put the door near to a corner. As for wiring, I'll be having all wiring in plastic conduit on the internal walls, so that it's easy to get at and no danger of drilling or screwing/nailing through it... been there, done that.
To help stop draughts and insects I'll be cladding mine with fc sheeting. It's quick and easy and can be painted to keep it looking good.
QUOTE (hoonsou @ 19 Aug 2014, 22:47) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>To help stop draughts and insects I'll be cladding mine with fc sheeting. It's quick and easy and can be painted to keep it looking good.
That's interesting.
I've only seen corrugated fc sheeting before but assume you can get flat sheets?
Hugh
That's interesting.
I've only seen corrugated fc sheeting before but assume you can get flat sheets?
Hugh
Nice space there Dave... look forward to seeing how you fill it.
Thanks for the replies guys, I am off to get the celotex and plasterboard this morning. I have 2 strip lights and 2 double sockets up near the join between the walls and roof so I am going to plaster board around them. I'm going to try and leave some points for ventilation and also try and get an off cut of carpet for the floor.
I hadn't thought about the windows and doors and not sure what I could do ? I'm thinking winter rather than summer.
Oh, and my main worry here is spiders, there are loads of them
Cheers
Dave
I hadn't thought about the windows and doors and not sure what I could do ? I'm thinking winter rather than summer.
Oh, and my main worry here is spiders, there are loads of them
Cheers
Dave
QUOTE (Dave c @ 21 Aug 2014, 09:31) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>Thanks for the replies guys, I am off to get the celotex and plasterboard this morning. I have 2 strip lights and 2 double sockets up near the join between the walls and roof so I am going to plaster board around them. I'm going to try and leave some points for ventilation and also try and get an off cut of carpet for the floor.
I hadn't thought about the windows and doors and not sure what I could do ? I'm thinking winter rather than summer.
Oh, and my main worry here is spiders, there are loads of them
Cheers
Dave
You can get electronic devices which should repel them - you don't really want to kill them as they are useful in removing rather more unwanted insects.
Hugh
I hadn't thought about the windows and doors and not sure what I could do ? I'm thinking winter rather than summer.
Oh, and my main worry here is spiders, there are loads of them
Cheers
Dave
You can get electronic devices which should repel them - you don't really want to kill them as they are useful in removing rather more unwanted insects.
Hugh
QUOTE (conmaira @ 21 Aug 2014, 10:02) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>That's interesting.
I've only seen corrugated fc sheeting before but assume you can get flat sheets?
Hugh
It's probably called something else over there, but here it's just plain old fibre cement as opposed to the old asbestos cement. Quick and easy to fix with clouts (nails)
I've only seen corrugated fc sheeting before but assume you can get flat sheets?
Hugh
It's probably called something else over there, but here it's just plain old fibre cement as opposed to the old asbestos cement. Quick and easy to fix with clouts (nails)
When you say leave some ventilation, how much is enough ??
I have 3 smallish holes at one end of the workshop in the a frame at the top and where the roof doesn't quite meet along the same edge, is that enough ?
I fitted celotex and plasterboard to one and a half walls today, need to order some more now 😃
I have 3 smallish holes at one end of the workshop in the a frame at the top and where the roof doesn't quite meet along the same edge, is that enough ?
I fitted celotex and plasterboard to one and a half walls today, need to order some more now 😃
Hi Dave
What an exciting prospect, a dedicated railway room, I look forward to see how it develops. I heartily agree with everything said. Do you have any south facing windows? If so, not only should you consider double glazing, (simple secondary stuff should do) but make sure you have curtains or some other sort of screening fitted. Direct sunlight on track or worse rolling stock can be catastrophic Banana shaped locos don't look right!
Regards
DubDee
What an exciting prospect, a dedicated railway room, I look forward to see how it develops. I heartily agree with everything said. Do you have any south facing windows? If so, not only should you consider double glazing, (simple secondary stuff should do) but make sure you have curtains or some other sort of screening fitted. Direct sunlight on track or worse rolling stock can be catastrophic Banana shaped locos don't look right!
Regards
DubDee
Hi Dave and a belated welcome to Somerset!
I'm also a shed dweller, and as other people have said, insulation and ventilation are key to keeping your shed at a good temperature and humidity. As you can see from my thread New Home for a Layout I have a vent at each end of the shed at ceiling level and in combination with insulation in walls, floor and ceiling and UPCV double glazed windows this has kept the shed pretty useable all year.
Look forward to seeing how your build develops.
Cheers,
Mike
I'm also a shed dweller, and as other people have said, insulation and ventilation are key to keeping your shed at a good temperature and humidity. As you can see from my thread New Home for a Layout I have a vent at each end of the shed at ceiling level and in combination with insulation in walls, floor and ceiling and UPCV double glazed windows this has kept the shed pretty useable all year.
Look forward to seeing how your build develops.
Cheers,
Mike
Some low level sockets would probably prove useful, I didn't put enough in our shed and I now wish I had put a single consumer unit with an on /off switch so that I could switch everything, shed lights, transformers, lighting transformers the whole lot off with one switch. I also wish I had laid an underfloor low voltage wiring duct at the mid point of the shed as my low voltage wires have to run all the way around the ends, untidy. 15X7 is plenty big enough to think about several control panels for sidings sections etc, 2 controllers side by side or a Duette look very good until two people try using them simultaneously...
QUOTE (DavidBroad @ 29 Aug 2014, 11:09) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>2 controllers side by side or a Duette look very good until two people try using them simultaneously...
Or you could try DCC having multiple cabs (plug-in handsets) with suitable sockets round the layout - instant control of any loco from anywhere in the shed.....
Or you could try DCC having multiple cabs (plug-in handsets) with suitable sockets round the layout - instant control of any loco from anywhere in the shed.....
QUOTE (Dave c @ 25 Aug 2014, 21:15) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>When you say leave some ventilation, how much is enough ??
I have 3 smallish holes at one end of the workshop in the a frame at the top and where the roof doesn't quite meet along the same edge, is that enough ?
I fitted celotex and plasterboard to one and a half walls today, need to order some more now 😃
A couple of years ago I managed to find a solar powered extraction fan which as you can guess tends to only work when the sun's shining!
The idea was to use it in our outside dog kennels but the dogs we had who lived in the kennels are no more and our other dogs live indoors.
So now its installed in our "woodshed" and seems to work ok - it took me a while to work out what the noise was when I was in there earlier in the year but it was not hot in there and the shed has no additional insulation so it must work.
I'd assume something your size would need a couple (or more) but from what I remember it wasn't expensive ie under £10 and costs nothing to run.
Hugh
I have 3 smallish holes at one end of the workshop in the a frame at the top and where the roof doesn't quite meet along the same edge, is that enough ?
I fitted celotex and plasterboard to one and a half walls today, need to order some more now 😃
A couple of years ago I managed to find a solar powered extraction fan which as you can guess tends to only work when the sun's shining!
The idea was to use it in our outside dog kennels but the dogs we had who lived in the kennels are no more and our other dogs live indoors.
So now its installed in our "woodshed" and seems to work ok - it took me a while to work out what the noise was when I was in there earlier in the year but it was not hot in there and the shed has no additional insulation so it must work.
I'd assume something your size would need a couple (or more) but from what I remember it wasn't expensive ie under £10 and costs nothing to run.
Hugh
Two pictures to show where I have got to, I found out the workshop has no square sides, edges or surfaces, hence the few gaps that I will use coving and lining paper to hide. The high point is in the middle of the room and it all drops off to the sides/corners of the room. I shall have to bring the levels back up when I build the base boards. The two sets of sockets may be moved further down the walls to be under the track at some point, the one by the window could be handy if I have my PC and screen in the hollow/opening.
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