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Guess what I found at a car boot sale!

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Last night my girlfriend arrived shortly after dinner and informed me I was gonig to take her to a car boot sale. I protested, explaining that I had far too much work to be getting on with but the look on her face told me that no matter what I said, I was going to the sale. (We all know THAT look.....)

Once there, I was bored within about 12.7 seconds as basically there was tat as far as the eye could see. Then out of the blue I noticed the blue ESU logo on a box buried on a table covered in general electrical tat. I picked it up and noticed it was a mobile control 51100. The traded then proceeded to tell me that it was a special German telephone that works on a new system called DCC!!! I asked him to elaborate, and he confessed to having googled it and didn't understand what he had found!!! So I asked how much for the phone and he replied £50. I must have looked shocked as he instantly changed his mind and said £40. I thought I'd chance my arm and offer £30 and guess what, look what I own now

Possibly the best bargain I've ever come across. I'm going to enjoy "talking" to my trains with it!!!

Now to get it working....

I wish to connect it to my ECoS. From reading the web it seems I remove the top board as shown below and insert it into my ECoS after using my lokprogrammer to change the software.

Is this my only option or can it be connected straight to the sniffer port?

I have noticed a lot of chat around which is better, the new or the old software but can't find too much info in English about the differences.

Also, when I power it on all I get is "netzsuche" which I gather means searching for network or something similar. I guess I have to connect it up before I can go any further.


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QUOTE (80class @ 17 Apr 2008, 10:31) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>Fair enough, It's not something I was ever going to try, just a concept that seemed quite interesting if it was possible.

Are you sure it cannot be reversed? I read on another forum that due to the lag experienced during function operation ESU released a firmware update to backdate the mobile control so if you had turned a 51100 into a 50111 it could be converted back.

Also, why would I need to connect the mobile control to a dcc system to update the software? In the manual it makes distinct mention to isolating the receiver when updating the software using the lokprogrammer?



There is firmware to reverse 50100 back to 51100. I have not done it but am led to believe it does work.

As Richard,DCCconcepts, said, I have done a number of MC conversions from V51100 to V50100 so Mobile Control will work with Ecos.
First the appropriate firmware is downloaded from ESU forum. The base station must then be connected to Lenz expressnet ( original MC was produced to operate with expressnet or similar system) and also Lokprogramer .
The Lenz is turned on, update firmware is then activated via Lokprogramer. The radio board is then removed from MC base station and inserted in back of ECOS. Be very careful with this as it can be a bit fiddly. Have a look at Neil S Wood's posts on this.
To update the Mobile Control firmware in hand held control, batteries are inserted ,hand held is then connected to Lokprogramer and turned on.
Once hand held is powered up the update firmware can be downloaded.
Now I know there is going to be those that can not understand why MC have to be connected to Lenz expressnet, or similar, system and the system turned on to update firmware so MC will operate with ECOS.
I don't know, all I know is, it does and it works.

As Richard said, MC can not be connected to sniffer port on ECOS. MC is either connected to Lenz or similar which in turn is connected to ECOS via sniffer( I operated successfully like that for 18 mnths) or the MC firmware is updated and opperated directly thru ECOS.
I have three MC hand controls operating directly thru ECOS and apart from 1 sec function lag ( you soon become accustomed to that) and the time it takes for the MC's to receive info from ECOS it all works very well.
Happy DCCing
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