[Doug]

Hachette Partworks, who produce a wide range of collectable magazine series in the UK, are pleased to announce that in December, for the first time ever in the UK, they will be releasing a build-up locomotive - the Flying Scotsman!

To date Hachette Partworks have released many successful build-up models including "Build the Titanic", "Radio Control BMW M3 GTR" and most recently "Build the Bismarck".

To celebrate the 80th Anniversary of the 1928 Flying Scotsman, Hachette Partworks have teamed up with the National Rail Museum and DJH model manufacturers to create a special anniversary edition build-up model in 0-gauge (locomotive and tender). This superb model has been researched by a team of British experts and it is an impressive and accurate replica of the Flying Scotsman locomotive as it was in 1928, when it made its first non-stop journey from London to Edinburgh. In every issue of the magazine there will be step-by-step instructions to assemble this highly detailed model.

On Sale Dates:
Issue 1: 26th December 2007
Issue 2: 9th January 2008
Frequency: Weekly
TV Campaign: from 23rd December until 1st January 2008
Website: www.buildtheflyingscotsman.co.uk (live from 23rd December)

Note, as DJH are involved, we can expect very good quality parts. See below for details on the model along with pricing.

 

[dwb]

Ok, I'm intrigued even if I don't have any O Gauge but I have a few questions.

Will it be powered?
How many issues in the series and how much each?
Did they copy the locomotive / tender spacing from a current model rather than the prototype?

These series usually run into rather a lot of wonga.

David

 

[PaulRhB]

QUOTE (dwb @ 28 Nov 2007, 21:39) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>Will it be powered?
How many issues in the series and how much each?
Did they copy the locomotive / tender spacing from a current model rather than the prototype?

These series usually run into rather a lot of wonga.

David
Will it be pre-painted?
If it's DJH it's going to be good but expensive.

Hornby do a nice one in OO or Accucraft do one RTR in Gauge 1 for £1,185.00
http://www.dragon-gscale.co.uk/accucraft-f...ge-1-1137-p.asp

 

[Doug]

Here are a few points from the publishers:

- The kit will contain etched brass, metal and ABS plastic parts.

- The model can be either static or motorised, we will give the option later in the series of installing the motor. We have created an offer whereby we can provide motor, motor mount, controller, track, pick ups for a special price (details will be included in issue 5)

- There will be 125 issues to assemble the locomotive and tender, this will be a weekly frequency (although there is always 2 weeks between the on-sale dates of issues 1 & 2)

- Issue 1 will be 50p and includes a 'Getting Started DVD', issue 2 will be £2.99 and all following issues will be £4.99.

- Each issue of the magazine will contain step-by-step instructions on how to assemble the model. Other areas included in the magazine will be the development of steam trains, the history of British Railways and the great locomotives.

 

[Brian Considine]

QUOTE (dwb @ 28 Nov 2007, 21:39) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>Did they copy the locomotive / tender spacing from a current model rather than the prototype?

Damm - you beat me to it David !

Please correct me if I'm wrong (& I probably am in this case) - did the locomotive require the extra tender for this non-stop run ?

 

[pedromorgan]

No the extra tender was to provide water for the non stop aniversary run because the water troughs had been removed.

When it first did the non stop it ran with the single tender.

Correct me if i'm wrong but this thing works out at about £750

I suppose over 2 and a half years thats not too bad.

Peter

 

[Brian Considine]

QUOTE (pedromorgan @ 29 Nov 2007, 12:34) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>No the extra tender was to provide water for the non stop aniversary run because the water troughs had been removed.

When it first did the non stop it ran with the single tender.

Thanks for that Peter - somehow I just knew I was wrong !

At least it was'nt that BRITHO that corrected me !

 

[7113]

QUOTE (pedromorgan @ 29 Nov 2007, 12:34) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>Correct me if i'm wrong but this thing works out at about £750
I suppose over 2 and a half years thats not too bad.

£617.26 - I worked it out, then you need paint,transfers etc.

QUOTE (dbclass50 @ 29 Nov 2007, 13:00) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>At least it was'nt that BRITHO that corrected me !

Only 'cos Peter beat me to it! As an aside the corridor tender was fitted to enable a crew change.

Regards

 

[pedromorgan]

i was under the impression that the corridor tender was not used for the initial run. i thought it still had the GNR tender untill slightly later.

Peter

 

[7113]

QUOTE (pedromorgan @ 29 Nov 2007, 14:02) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>i was under the impression that the corridor tender was not used for the initial run.

Damn and blast, now you've got me wondering which of us is right. Off to the files later.

Regards

 

[34C]

QUOTE (pedromorgan @ 29 Nov 2007, 14:02) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>i was under the impression that the corridor tender was not used for the initial run. i thought it still had the GNR tender untill slightly later.
The corridor tender was introduced specifically to enable crew exchange on this service, and was fitted behind the pacifics concerned for the inaugural non-stops. Pictures various of the inaugural departure from KX (let's trust they are the genuine article, there are certainly crowds of people, and the Lord Mayor of London and Mr Gresley are present in some) show a high sided tender behind 4472, and when the rear fireman's side is on view, the porthole.

 

[poliss]

Nut what happens if there's an issue lost in the post, or they don't send one. Customer service with these places isn't very good.

 

[PaulRhB]

QUOTE (BRITHO @ 29 Nov 2007, 13:07) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>£617.26 - I worked it out, then you need paint,transfers etc.
Hmmm the DJH kit is £574 at Tower models and that requires motor and gears to complete like the magazine does, so you are paying a little bit more for the magazines making it not an unreasonable price overall. I would go for the complete kit though as I doubt I could wait 2 years to build it all!

 

[7113]

QUOTE (BRITHO @ 29 Nov 2007, 16:19) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>Damn and blast, now you've got me wondering which of us is right. Off to the files later.

According to photos in the book "Flying Scotsman" by Alan Pegler and others (Ian Allan 1969) it was definitely fitted with a high sided tender on 01/05/28 which would agree with the post by 34C

regards

 

[flying dutchman]

It appears that someone spoke to DJH at Worley and this partwork is thier design but Hachette is sourcing the parts some of which will be resin. I thought thta DJH only supplied metal parts for their kits? can anyone enlighten me?

 

[gwr man]

My wife has just come home from town with the first edition for me from WH Smiths complete with a short DVD and subscription offer. All in in all, an excellent model.

 

[gwr man]

THE WEBSITE FOR THIS IS UP AND WORKING ALREADY
SO GET SUBSCRIBING.

 

[Madkitten]

We rang the magazine company producing this and questioned them on it - Apparently the parts have not been made by DJH they only allowed them to use the drawings and moulds etc. After speaking to some other people we decided not to go for the collection because of a few things,

Apparently a lot of the kit has been produced in plastic instead of the usual metal / resin parts. This includes the entire wheel interior. Also the magazine company where very cagy on exactly when you would be getting the motor and how much it would be.

We were also told that the wheels are being made in china for them - does this mean they will not be as good as the ones supplied on the DJH kit.
Personally as the DJH kit isnt that much more i think id rather go for that knowing i would have a much stronger and better built locomotive. Although i can understand the switch to mostly plastic - it will be easier for people who have never worked with metal before - but doesnt this just defeat the object slightly............. Also now that they are using ABS plastic for the boiler this means that you will have difficulty fitting in anything like smoke units etc cause the heat that they create.

 

[wiggy25]

I have spoken to DJH engineering today and what a positive conversation it was!!

DJH are still supplying some of the parts for the kit.
Some of the other bigger items Hachette are having made either injection moulded or die-cast in plastic for mass production along with etched brass as well.

DJH are on week 16 of the build, yes they are building it themselves with the parts from Hachette so they(DJH) can write the build instructions.

The motor that is being offered from Hachette is the Sulzer one which has been heavily subsidised, it was recommended by DJH as the kit loco will be lighter than the original DJH kit and as such wont need the powerful motor. Add to this that the majority of these kits will probably never pull a full train of coaches then the Sulzer motor made the best compromise, although if you want you can fit the bigger Napier motor if you want to.

The guy I spoke to was very positive about the kit and very impressed with the quality and accuracy of the parts they had received from Hachette.
He really believes that it will produce a very good kit and will be a great start into 7mm kit building.
It has been designed with the novice modeller in mind, but as the build progresses they will give choices in the build manual as to wether you want to use glue or solder the choice will be down to the builder and what they feel confident in doing.

Hope this clarifies some points.

Ian

 

[flying dutchman]

Hi wiggy25,
I'm curious, do you have any connection with DJH or Hachette?
I notice you have posted this glowing report on most of the railway forums. Well done for extracting the information out of them, when I rang they were a bit reluctant to discuss the matter and referred me to Hachette or Jacklins?