[pedromorgan]

I have to say i am very impressed with the mature way we seem to be discussing this subject on this forum. it has come up here before but it always amazes me when i see us discussing it properly and whenever it is mentioned on other forums it turns into an anti war anti Bush/Blair bunfight within the first 30 minutes!

I think you could display a model with the swatika and not feel guilty about it. but i think it has to be done very carefully. there is absoloutly no room for modellers liscence. it has to be just right. I once had ideas for a model of the ramp at Aushwitz that i feel could be modelled quite tastefully and in a reasonable space. but as i said there is NO room for license. you have to show it exactly as it was.

Nozome you have some nice stock there. i am not sure about big german steamers comming through Rayners Lane!! (even I wouldnt do that!!!!)

Adecoaches i like the E19. i have a roco one in blue/cream. i would really like a new one though. mine has done many miles aaround my garden layout in gloucester and is nearly as old as me! it was purchased by my father from beatties in bristol for £12 (i know that because ti still has the price tag on and the reciept in the box!!) i think its time for a more up to date model to grace my layout. it does look smart in red.

Peter

 

[pedromorgan]

I always find things like this an interesting discussion.

"Another trap: should, say, an exact model of a concentration camp be on display at the Holocaust Memorial site in Berlin, nobody will doubt that this is purely educational, due to who is putting this model on display, and for what purposes. On the other hand, the same model put on display by the extreme far-right leaning "Nationalzeitung" will not meet the same criteria, even though we´re talking about the very same model."

I actually dont think the 2 groups you mention would build the very same model. one would be tastefull and respectfull. the other would be insulting. i think it is those little details and the (how can i put this, i dont really want to use the word "atmosphere") "feeling" of a model that would dictate weather it was acceptable or not.

here are some pictures of the model at the Impreial War Museum in london.

Do you think this model could be displayed respectfully at an exhibition. i once did a few sketches of a layout based on the ramp (shortly after seeing this one at the IWM) i liked the idea of having evrything grey. i thought it gave a certain distance between us and the peole depicted. i was going to have a black curtain on 3 sides of the layout and extending a couple of feet infront of the layout at the sidesso that if you were looking at the layout then you would be focussed solely on this layout. i wouldnt want to do it if the people were viewing it as simply another layout. i wanted people to see the model and fill in the gaps with their imagination.

Peter

 

[pedromorgan]

"But part of this proper context, or "feeling", are imho the surroundings." absoloutly.

I dont think this would be a model that would be displayed at run of the mill local exhibitions. I think the owner would have to be carefull about how it it was displayed and the exhibition managers would also have to think about where they were going to put it.

I am quite supprised that it is still as bad as you say. I thought the german government had more or less let sleeping dogs lye. I noticed that some preserved german loco's are starting to get their eagles back.

Peter