[Takeshi]

One welcoming message to me from Neil said he would like to see the Henschel-Wegmann going through Rayners Lane.
I have uploaded some pictures to Photobucket but not the Henschel-Wegmann going through Rayners Lane as yet.Later.
Need more photo taking practice.For example get rid of dust etc before you pose the subjects!
I was in a bit of a rush to try things out as it was my first shots with the camera and then put them on Photobucket.
The Fleischmann 03.10 came without Reischs Adler so I was able to obtain some etched nickle silver ones plus the front emblem.
This makes the loco more historically in keeping with the period of its introduction.
After all the design is stunning and it was not the locos fault that there was a lot of politcal intrigue going on at the time.
The Henschel-Wegmann is a Rivarossi version.The 01 is the Liliput version.
Here is the link to the Album on Photobucket.

Visit My Album?

To view click on Deutsche Reischsbahn Era 2 where you can magnify to full screen and thereby see all the dust and defects etc!!
There are other railway albums to view if interested.

Will try to upload more as time permits.

DRG Era2 is only one part of my interests.I have over the years via eBay etc collected several rolling stock items of the period.

Regards to all,

Bryan.

 

[Takeshi]

QUOTE (dbclass50 @ 6 May 2007, 07:19) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>Know the feeling - you always spot the tiny thing out of place after taking the photos.

BTW - where did you get the emblems from ?

I have a Liliput 05, the Olympic version with the Swasticas (spelling) on the smokebox but dare'nt post a pic of it in case it upsets anyone.

I also have an example of the Liliput 05 Olympic version,Brian.

The Liliput 05 1936 Oylimpic version loco originally came with a hakenkreutz [swastika] included and the instructions,in German,said roughly translated "dear model fan if you wish to make the model historically correct the hakenkreutz transfers are included". I agree.After all it is a hobby thing,not the loco's fault.
It is rare to find the transfers included.The rings are there and I made my own smokebox flag.
I saw one version on eBay complete with all transfers from a seller in Sweden.
As you know the emblem is illegal in Gemany.Was this model [Austrian made year available?] available pre the illegarity thing?
I have a friend in Berlin who works for Berlin S Bahn who models British SR railways!
I sent his some SR coaches and as a reward he was able to get me the etched eagles and front emblem from a chap who makes them in Dresden.Maybe the former East part is more lax re the eagles?I don't think they are generally available.You could make enquiries at German model shops perhaps.

I will have to be more carefull when posing for pictures.Those ladies soft make up brushes do a good of of removing dust.

Regards,Bryan

 

[Takeshi]

QUOTE (adecoaches26point4 @ 6 May 2007, 12:02) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>I have used them on a number of D.R.G loco's.such as this Rivarossi E19.

Nozomi,
Fine photo's of some stunning models

All the best.

David

Thanks David,I will have to do more.
I was impressed with the emblem on your electric loco.It is ust the right size.We have no such swapmeets in Victoria.You have a better chance in UK.
See my reply to Brian.
I am not offended as this was a part of history [I was getting bombed/doodlebuged on at the time!] and it is ironic that so many stunning railway designs came out of that period.
Even William Stanier of the LMS was influenced by them.There was a diesle rail car set [about '38] looking for all the world like the Flying Hamburger.
The Coronation pacifics streamlining was similar to 05's.
I have a DVD with archival film of the Henschel-Wegmann-Zug which shows Mr.Stainier and a large group visiting the DRG in 1934.It even shows them in the Glass railcar.

Best regards,
Bryan.

 

[Takeshi]

QUOTE (ME 26-06 @ 8 May 2007, 15:04) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>I wouldn´t risk displaying a model featuring a swastika in Germany (apart from the fact that I despise everything the swastika stands for). Generally, educational or historical context is only assumed when original pictures that date back to the Third Reich are involved - not replicas or models.

The German criminal code clearly states:

Section 86 Dissemination of Means of Propaganda of Unconstitutional Organizations

shall be punished with imprisonment for not more than three years or a fine

(4) If guilt is slight?

Very interesting.
A bit stiff for us railway modelers I would have thought.

The swastika figures prominently in Japanese temple architecture design as it does in the rest of the orient.To bad it carries the evil conotation which was not originally intended.Japanese friends here see nothing wrong with the symbol.

I still wonder how Liliput got away with including the hakenkreutz transfers with its 1936 Olympic model.Was it because it was made in Austria.

What about the Reischs adler with the cross in the circle reproduced on various locos and rolling stock of many makers of Era ll models should it be banned also?

I would say that the whole eagle design was highly symbolic of the period and appeared everywhere and on everything.

I like my models as they are and will continue to run and display them even if they are running through my English scenery.
As I have said before it was not the models fault that those stunning designs appeared at that time.

Best regards,
Bryan.

 

[Takeshi]

Well guys I am getting quite an education.
It is a very touchy subject and I am very impressed with all the comments and information written by such level headed people.
It did not know about the War Museum display or the German Laws on the subject for example.
Best regards,
Bryan.

 

[Takeshi]

QUOTE (neil_s_wood @ 14 May 2007, 03:17) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>Do you know where I can get a copy of this? Like the pictures by the way.
My two cents worth is that prototypical accuracy is not worth offending people over and this is an area which, as been said previsoulsy was no joke. I think younger people of my generation and younger tend to forget how close WW2 was and that this symbol still does cause fear and alarm to many. I certainly don't want to be offering any encouragement to neo nazis however unintentionaly.

I obtained my DVD from Amazon.de.Documentaries.
Go to Eisen-u Schienenbahnen under DVD.
DVD is from Bahn Extra Video."Die Reichsbahn in den 30er-Jahren".PAL region2.50 minutes.
Historische Aufnahmen 1935-1943.
The films are from the from Archiv of Friedrich Röhrs.They look to be 16mm judging by the grain.
Particular interest is footage of the British engineers on a visit.
There are a lot of Reischs Hakenkreutz on the Wappen flapping about on the films!
By the way Japanese word for flag is the German loan word "Wappen".
Auf weidersehen.

 

[Takeshi]

QUOTE (neil_s_wood @ 15 May 2007, 05:46) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>Thanks for that I just bought one, I think.

You're welcome I'm sure.
Rots of ruck.